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Old 10-31-2005, 05:24 PM
Stefan_K Stefan_K is offline
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Default 10/20 big pot

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG 54/4/.5
CO 22/15/3.7
SB 18/12/1.7

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

River: (15 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

missclicked first time, now you have some tells [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

This looks fine. I think you are chopping or ahead (maybe an aggro KJ?) often enough to call down. This is one of those cases where I want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. No use putting in any extra bets on the turn or river.
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

looks fine. I think you need a good read that SB will do this with a lot of bad jacks/pocket pairs to do anything else.
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

sorry about missing the reads.. missed to press the 'I want to preview my post'
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

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sorry about missing the reads.. missed to press the 'I want to preview my post'

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I still can't see folding this anywhere. I mean it looks like you are in bad shape, but the pot is too big to find a fold anywhere.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:49 PM
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I would cap the flop for value and to define SB's hand.

Even though you didnt do this, and thus SB's hand is somewhat undefined, I would raise the turn. SB, even though he is a TAG, could have been three-betting preflop to force out the limpers and protect a weaker jack like KJ, or JTs, which he would have called from the SB.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

I don't like the flop cap, unless you are folding to the turn checkraise which I assume would be the case. I don't want to get pushed off the best hand here and lose the possibility to improve to the best hand. Flop cap and turn check behind would be another line, not sure how I feel about that.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:02 PM
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raise the turn.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:06 PM
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I dont like the turn check on a jack-high board.

It think you're overestimating the likelihood of a checkraise on the turn. Given your preflop raise and a cap on the flop, you're only getting checkraised on the turn by a set.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 big pot

Raise turn, fold to a 3bet. I also bet the river if they both just call and its checked to me. SB's checkraise from a TAGs POV looks like a weak jack, trying to face the field with two cold from a likely pfr autobet. I think him facing the field with 3 cold with a set doesnt really make sense here. Basically, ur missing value by just calling here on the big streets IMO. Especially since UTG is such a poor player.

-Mike
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