So I just got caught pushbotting...

pokerdirty · #1 10-10-2005, 03:55 PM

i was in 4th of 6th, but still had to so some catching up to do to get to 3rd.

the guy to my left has 60% of what i have, and i push with A2 as the SB (no one else has entered).

BB calls with KQ, and catches a K on the turn.

i'm now down to about 7-8 BBs, and it gets folded around to me on the button.

Do i have to tighten up here since i just got caught, or can i push my stack in again? What ranges should I be pushing with.

This is a somewhat loose 10p1 on PR.

Thanks in advance,

Shaf

axeshigh · #2 10-10-2005, 03:58 PM

Just do what you gotta do. And you didn't exactly get caught, he had a worse hand than you did.

schwza · #3 10-10-2005, 03:58 PM

it's not like you just got caught pushing 62o. you had an A. i wouldn't sweat the image issue too much.

in order to give a push range, we need stack sizes for everyone and blinds. if you don't know exactly, make it up.

Nicholasp27 · #4 10-10-2005, 04:01 PM

if u lost 60% of ur stack and now have 7-8 bbs, then u had 12-13 bbs before your push

i wouldn't push with >10bbs with a2, even on sb...a2 is gonna be up against 2 in-between cards or pp...so not much better than a coinflip if called

now u have 7-8bbs...well, 7.5 bbs means the blinds are 20% of ur stack, so u push first in pot with any decent holding, with the word 'decent' being defined looser the closer u are to sb

being on the button, it's decently loose, but u also are at taht 7.5 cutoff point, not in the 5bb territory

so your pushing ranges should be decently limited...maybe pps, broadways, 78s+, a6s+

schwza · #5 10-10-2005, 04:02 PM

effective stack on the a2 hand was something like 6 bb's. easy push.

Nicholasp27 · #6 10-10-2005, 04:05 PM

he had over 10bbs...he should have just done bet it up to 3bbs, not pushed

kevkev60614 · #7 10-10-2005, 04:08 PM

Edited because I'm a dolt.

pokerdirty · #8 10-10-2005, 04:09 PM

i'm not stressing over the fact that i pushed with A2, got called and lost a flip.

my concern is that i'm going to get called by him again if he has even a marginal hand. i'm now fifth with the blinds increasing soon, and i was playing aggressive to even get where i was.

if he calls me with KQo for his tournament, i'm wondering what it's going to take for him to call again.

pokerdirty · #9 10-10-2005, 04:09 PM

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he had over 10bbs...he should have just done bet it up to 3bbs, not pushed

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BB had ~ 5 BBs left.

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i don't remember the exact numbers, i'm estimating.

fnord_too · #10 10-10-2005, 04:10 PM

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he had over 10bbs...he should have just done bet it up to 3bbs, not pushed

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You are missing schwza's point. Villain had 6bb so that is effectively what hero had for that hand. You absolutely must consider effective stacks, especially when you do not want to get called.