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Old 12-21-2005, 04:44 AM
Skip Brutale Skip Brutale is offline
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Default Can the World be a Happy place?

I was at my rents for dinner and something got me going off about how the world is such a sick, sad, miserable place of cruelty, pain, and sorrow. Then my mom chimed in with something like "or the world can be a happy place, it is what you make it".

I'm well versed on her counter-argument so I came back hard with a punishing "yeah you can be ignorant to reality and put the blinders on but that wont change the fact there are still children born with horrible birth defects, people still living in slavery, a woman getting raped somewhere right now, a child being molested, a dog dying or a plane crashing, even the Buddha said "life is suffering"".

She had no counter-point. Especially once I start quoting the Buddha to aid in my cause. Do you guys think I am wrong, and if so lets enter a debate where we wont change each other's minds, and things will quickly deteroriate into off-topic personal insults, one upmanship, and ego-damaging fueled anger.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

i guess you could say it beats the alternative. holla.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

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i guess you could say it beats the alternative. holla.

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So you are saying what is important is not what is the true view, but what is the more liberating view. I say that choosing to use ignorance will not payoff in the end, and is selfish.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

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i guess you could say it beats the alternative. holla.

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So you are saying what is important is not what is the true view, but what is the more liberating view. I say that choosing to use ignorance will not payoff in the end, and is selfish.

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you may want to consider attempting to understand what i said before trying to offer up such astute argumentation.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

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i guess you could say it beats the alternative. holla.

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So you are saying what is important is not what is the true view, but what is the more liberating view. I say that choosing to use ignorance will not payoff in the end, and is selfish.

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you may want to consider attempting to understand what i said before trying to offer up such astute argumentation.

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I am not a stupid man. If I read your post and dont know what you are talking about then you have writing problems. I suggest not trying to use fancy wordplay and instead getting to your point. Please rework your post then into something I can clearly comprehend, thanks!
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:59 AM
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i guess you could say the world beats the alternative, non existence. holla.

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fmp just for you [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

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i guess you could say the world beats the alternative, non existence. holla.

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fmp just for you [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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How this wasn't clear to OP before the FYP, I don't understand.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:20 AM
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i guess you could say the world beats the alternative, non existence. holla.

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fmp just for you [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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How this wasn't clear to OP before the FYP, I don't understand.

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im pretty sure he already explained that i have trouble writing coherently.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Can the World be a Happy place?

You can look for good, but it's often a waste of time. Better than just stopping at realizing that most things and people suck, it's better to go to the next step of just treasuring what good things there are instead of taking them for granted, and trying to be the source of good things yourself. It's useless to realize something about the sucky state of the world and then do nothing. You might as well never have realized it at all.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:48 AM
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She had no counter-point.

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She had counter points she just knew they would be a waste on you. Yup your own mother knew. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hell if I'm going to try then.
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