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Old 10-04-2005, 02:20 PM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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Default Re: Live 20/40 w/ overs

"C'mon, Tommy, 'fess up, you've raised with 74s, haven't you...?"

Of course. I've raised with every hand there is, many times, at limit and no-limit, including 72o.

I also used to drink shots of jack daniels at the poker table.

I also have smoked hundreds of thousands of cigarettes.

Just because I've done these things does not mean I think they are good ideas. If anything, it makes me something of an expert on certain types of bad ideas.

The happy ending is that somewhere along the way I got sane enough for long enough to quit the cigs, quit the whiskey, and quit the spazzy raises with squat cards. Life, love, and money are so much easier this way.

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Old 10-04-2005, 02:57 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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just to get things straight, you were screwing around right? you don't necessarily thing your flop and turn lines are best, you just care about the river?

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you mean this isn't standard for you?

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Old 10-04-2005, 03:58 PM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: Live 20/40 w/ overs

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just to get things straight, you were screwing around right? you don't necessarily thing your flop and turn lines are best, you just care about the river?

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you mean this isn't standard for you?

Barron

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See, that would've been a priceless response as the first one to this thread, when you went:



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Im trying to remember how this hand went down but the game was a great live game at the ameristar in st.louis,

we were playing 6 or 7 handed and everybody at the table had over buttons except Mark Wilson (who you pool fanatics will know is one of the best pool players, period. 5 time national 9 ball champion, 3 time national 8 ball). he doesn't have an over button. Mark is the absolute definition of weak tight. he'll check down an overpair on an even remotely scary board, he plays like 1 hand per hour, even in this game where me and my friend winston are the ones laggig it up. so im in the 6 seat. my friend winston is in the 7 seat. Winston is an aspiring poker player. he played at the commerce alot when he lived there. he would be good but when he's down he plays very bad, and he's a little lag. ive showed him my pokertracker database and compared it with him to help him try to beat the 30 game so he really respects my play.

at this point the game is pretty tight and winston is doing well, he was down like 2 racks but got 90% of it back so he's doin ok.

to his left is a guy who plays tight and has won "52 out of 56" of his last sessions...great, thats how you record a win, good for you ... to his left is a bad playing but tight preflop player...

so only mark is un-overed.

as its folded to me i look around and the sb, bb and mark dont look too excited.

I have 74ss and raise, winston 3 bets all fold i call.

flop is Kc9c2c. i check and call. at this point he looks slightly afraid of this flop and he would have bet more forcefully if he had a K or a club from the looks of it. i plan to c'r the turn and bet the river.

turn is 7d i check and raise his bet. he looks disgusted, thinks a while and calls,

river is 4. damn, i bet. my plan was to get him to fold, but now i want a CALL.

what do you say to get the call after you played it strongly enough to get a fold?

Barron



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And he could've replied simply:

Standard.


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