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Old 01-20-2005, 04:33 PM
spydog spydog is offline
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Default I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

Villian is 54/8. Average aggression postflop.

This hand looks incredibly simple, but upon further examination I thought this was an interesting river decision. What is highest EV play here and why?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks...
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:36 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

I'd bet here every time and yes, I think it's very simple. Not sure why you think it's so interesting????
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

the only reason not to bet is to checkraise, and with that you're risking getting nothing in the pot. BET BET BET
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

given that you raised preflop, and the CO has called the whole time, i would put him on a medium pocket pair or something like AJ. therefore, a bet is definitely in order, as he seems resigned to see your cards.

had you limped in, it would seem more likely that he was on a draw, and therefore checking to try to induce a bluff makes more sense.

cheers!
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

I bet that every time
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

i like the open fold here as both A5 and 22 beat you.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

I hope you were going for the river check-raise here.

Seriously, you need to bet this river like 100% of the time.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:41 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

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i like the open fold here as both A5 and 22 beat you.

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definitly -EV
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

i think you should bet here approximately 100% of the time.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: I Didn\'t Value Bet This River, Would You?

No, you have to bet here. AQ and KQ too. Weaker and I'd check to induce a bluff.
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