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Old 09-30-2005, 06:59 PM
JMa JMa is offline
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Default Weird pos w/ low set

NL 1000 6-handed. Effective stack is $1k.

UTG limps, I call in CO w/ 44. SB pops it to $35. We both call.

The flop is 9s 7s 4h. SB leads for 2/3 of the pot. UTG miniraises. I raise it up about $500. SB folds and UTG pushes. I? I get about 3-1 on the call.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Weird pos w/ low set

Umm, call?
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Call and expect a poorly played overpair. If its set over set theres nothing you can do.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Weird pos w/ low set

If you don't call here fold pf.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Weird pos w/ low set

I wouldnt have raised it to $500. Once you do, theres no way you can fold, but I am willing to bet he has a higher set unless you have a read that hes an idiot who overplays.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:27 PM
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I agree to 120% that the call getting 3:1 should be obvious?

However, can one get away from this hand on the flop? The board is among the best ones possible but the action? If you think UTG really has a big hand... can you fold this set considering you've invested 14$ total? or is this kind of play terrible?

What other potential lines are there?
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:30 PM
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I agree... when raising to $500 and totally committing yourself you COULD show enough strength against some opponent so that you only to get called/raised by better hands? Yes/no?

You "HAVE" to call since you've already committed yourself? But this call still feels terrible?

How often could one expect to be ahead here?
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:51 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Weird pos w/ low set

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I am willing to bet he has a higher set

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Me too, but only because he posted it.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Weird pos w/ low set

What would you do here? I don't see any other line.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:59 PM
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Push/fold... by pushing perhaps represent a draw and hopefully make his calling range wider?

Seems you don't have enough of a read to have a reason to avoid shoving it in.

If you're beat he's not going anywhere anyway.
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