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Old 07-23-2005, 05:16 PM
bluewilde bluewilde is offline
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Default Getting Desperate with KJ

I haven't voluntarily entered a single pot...and my stack is getting low. I'm UTG, but don't feel like I can wait (blinds increase to 75 150 next hand and will consume 1/3 of my chips). Thougts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t570)
MP (t3640)
Button (t1665)
SB (t1295)
BB (t830)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
MP calls t570, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls t260.

Flop: (t980) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t980) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t980) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t980
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ


auto-push.

i would also like to know what opportunities you might have passed up on this past orbit...
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

Ugh...interesting question...probably a bunch. Keep posting and being told I'm stealing too early (agreed) with a decent stack, but then I psyche myself out when I'm lowstacked and need to be pushing earlier. Here are the preceding 6 hands

1)

Seat 4: ( $1820 )
Seat 5: ( $1865 )
Seat 7: ( $1195 )
Seat 8: ( $2065 )
Seat 3: Hero( $720 )
Seat 1: ( $335 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero [ 7h Ad ]

2 folds, Hero folds

2)

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: ( $1820 )
Seat 5: ( $1815 )
Seat 7: ( $1245 )
Seat 8: ( $2065 )
Seat 3: Hero( $720 )
Seat 1: ( $335 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero [ Td 4s ]
Seat 8 is all-In [335], Hero folds

3)

Seat 7 is the button
Seat 4: ( $1820 )
Seat 5: ( $1815 )
Seat 7: ( $1195 )
Seat 8: ( $2450 )
Seat 3: Hero( $720 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero[ 4c Ad ]
2 folds, Seat 7 calls, Seat 8 calls, Hero checks

[ Kc, 3d, Kh ]

3 checks.
[ 3h ]

3 checks
[ 8s ]

2 checks, Seat 7 bets (100), 2 folds

4)

Seat 8 is the button
Seat 4: ( $1820 )
Seat 5: ( $1815 )
Seat 7: ( $1395 )
Seat 8: ( $2350 )
Seat 3: Hero ( $620 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero[ Qh 7d ]
2 folds. Seat 8 raises (425), Hero folds

5)

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 4: ( $3690 )
Seat 5: ( $1815 )
Seat 7: ( $1395 )
Seat 8: ( $530 )
Seat 3: Hero( $570 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero[ Kc Ts ]
1 fold, Seat 8 raises (200), Hero folds

6)

Seat 4 is the button

Seat 4: ( $3640 )
Seat 5: ( $1715 )
Seat 7: ( $1395 )
Seat 8: ( $680 )
Seat 3: Hero( $570 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero[ Ad Tc ]
Seat 8 is all-In [680], Hero folds

7)

Seat 5 is the button
Seat 4: ( $3640 )
Seat 5: ( $1665 )
Seat 7: ( $1295 )
Seat 8: ( $830 )
Seat 3: ( $570 )
Blinds(50/100)

Dealt to Hero [ Kh Js ]
Hero is all-In (570)...and that's the original post
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

keep in mind that 'early' doesn't necessarily speak to just the current blinds. you're down to 7BB. the one cool thing with pushing here is that other than shortie, the blinds aren't committed to call you yet. and while jocking for position, you'll find a well timed push or two in this 'early' level met with little resistance (of course anyone waking up to AA will resist a tad [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ). let's take a look......

#1 - push. folded to you in CO-1 it looks. i can't remember exactly how party's seat #'s work, but it looks like pretty healthy and not-so-desperate-yet are in the blinds. fine place to push.

#2 - um, yeah. fold.

#3 - PF, flop, turn ok. i think you almost have to call that min-bet from UTG for a probable split pot. sucks when he turns over a K and you loose another 15% of your stack, but i don't know if i could fold.

#4 - fold.

#5 - man, that's a tough one. he's as desperate as you. your hand could hold up. but w/ the other able to look him up, i'd hate to push over the top - compelling big stack (or the other) to call...getting it 3-way or worse. i'd probably fold too.

#6 - i'm gambling on this one. think of the hands you're pushing from UTG w/6BB's? a coin-toss perhaps, but one of the better opportunities you're going to have to double/triple through.
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

1 and 6 I agree with. 3 I may well push preflop if they are loose and playing too many hands with limps. There's a lot of chips out there and you could take them all uncontested. It's read dependent though.
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:19 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

[ QUOTE ]
(blinds increase to 75 150 next hand and will consume 1/3 of my chips).

[/ QUOTE ]

This makes it an autopush IMO. If this wasn't the case I might fold.

Yugoslav
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

1. All-in!
2. Fold.
3. I probably push preflop here.
4. Fold.
5. Shoot! Fold.
6. Shove.
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Getting Desperate with KJ

I think this is an automatic push. A 150 blind is between a third and a quarter of your stack; you need to retain stack leverage, IMO.
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