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#21
10-21-2005, 02:19 PM
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Re: $11s: back to basics
The resulting answer to these hands is "how to play post flop."
Hand 1. If you complete, and you don't hit the flop hard (meaning 2 pair or better), and because you can't control yourself from putting more chips into the pot if you hit an ace on the flop, then yes, folding is better. If you can somehow find the fortitude to fold on a flop like this, then I prefer a call. Hand 2: How to play this hand is not as simple as posters are making it, because we're not taking the big picture here. Jurollo knows how to play postflop and can find spots to pickup chips. For others, postflop play is a recipe for disaster (I know, I was the king of giving away chips when I started). If you are someone who finds themselves frequently with 550 to 650 chips by the time you get to L4, then I think limping is better here. If that's not you, then I'm sure you can find your own line on how to play hands you want. BTW, with regards to limping with TT. Most of the time you're getting paid off when you flop a set. If it's limped around, and you flop all unders, like 9 high, more often than not you can feel confident your overpair is best. And if some guy wants to go to the felt with Q9, and 5 outs to beat you, great. Stack'em! Scuba Edit: When I say limping, I mean that no one has raised preflop. 
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#22
10-21-2005, 02:27 PM
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Re: $11s: back to basics
other players can't flop sets in limped pots? i agree most times your over pair is good (especailly in the $10's). What about higher levels?
JK
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#23
10-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: $11s: back to basics
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Unbelievable.. well ok fold for 5 chips if you suck at post flop play I guess.. I never would fold for 5 chips with 94o in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Sigh. More attitude for no reason. Grow up. Look up "reverse implied odds" if you really want to learn something. Add in 5 other tables, and maybe you'll see why it's not at all crystal clear to call, as you seem to think. [/ QUOTE ] Are you retarded? You're getting like 20:1 to complete, and that's not even factoring in implied odds. I complete with ANY TWO. We've been through this before. [/ QUOTE ] yep... Only way I could see grapefruit being correct here is if he refuses to lay down his hand when he hits the flop at all... Otherwise, I cant understand bein so weak tight..."reverse implied odds" my foot.
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#25
10-21-2005, 02:36 PM
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Re: $11s: back to basics
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other players can't flop sets in limped pots? i agree most times your over pair is good (especailly in the $10's). What about higher levels? JK [/ QUOTE ] Well, on higher levels, people don't go to the felt with Q9 usually. So mathematically, it's less profitable. But on lower levels, this is not the case.
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#26
10-21-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: $11s: back to basics
Agreed! Thanks
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