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hand vs. stox
i dont know what i like least about this hand...
first hand at a table. 6 handed. stox opens from the CO i have ATo and call (? im pretty sure this is a 3bet if not, its close...but i called) flop comes Khigh w/ 2 raggedy hearts. i have no hearts. i check stox bets i call (? c'r here, he'll bet anything he opens w/ in the co for the most part). he may fold a pair on the turn to a bet if i c'r this + in worst case scenario i have no outs for all intents and purposes but i think more likely have outs IF im behind here at all. turn is a blank non heart. i check intending to call. stox cheks. river is Ah. i bet. i basically dont likeanything here except the river b/c im pretty sure he calls w/ more than he bets if i check. the problem is what if he raises? comments. river action if he raises? -Barron |
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Re: hand vs. stox
I would definitely three bet preflop and if I played it as you did, I would grit my teeth and call a river raise.
What do you think about leading the turn? |
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Re: hand vs. stox
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I would definitely three bet preflop and if I played it as you did, I would grit my teeth and call a river raise. What do you think about leading the turn? [/ QUOTE ] i think its a possibility. if i was stox though id be likely to put me on a hand id fold to a raise though. and this hand is showdown worthy a lot of the time at this point. -Barron |
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Re: hand vs. stox
worlds easiest river checkraise
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Re: hand vs. stox
I would be inclined to think a river check is in order:
If he has an ace, he will bet and you do not face a raise from AJ/AQ, so you make just as much. If he has nothing, he will bluff this card at least sometimes. If he was slowplaying on the turn or just made a flush, you save facing a raise. If he has a strong king, he will likely bet here, but he would also bet the turn, so we can rule this out. The only time betting is superior is if he has a calling hand that he won't bet. I don't think this is very likely since he probably would bet the turn with any pair. A good player may not make this bet with pocket queens or jacks, but few other single pairs should check. It might be reasonable to check a weak king here also, but I suspect few players do this very often. ... I don't think a pre-flop 3 bet is mandatory at all, but since you did not, I would check-raise this flop fairly often, esp if you have a heart. ... As far as calling a river raise, the short answer is you shouldn't put yourself in that spot. The other answer is anyone could very easily raise with the same hand or a worse ace, since it would be easy to put you on a king when you called the flop, and didn't 3 bet before the flop, so I wouldn't often fold to the river raise. Dan Z. |
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Re: hand vs. stox
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...this hand is showdown worthy a lot of the time at this point. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get it. Did you plan on calling the turn and the river unimproved if stox bet? |
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Re: hand vs. stox
Sometimes I like betting out those flops more than anything actually.
Sometimes I 3 bet pre-flop and sometimes I call. River is a good bet, and if raised, call. Stox has been checking a lot of made hands (not talking monsters...just pairs and such) behind on the turn lately...least vs me. |
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Re: hand vs. stox
I admit to thinking how awesome it is how you guys dissect each others' game and tendancies here for all to observe. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Re: hand vs. stox
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I admit to thinking how awesome it is how you guys dissect each others' game and tendancies here for all to observe. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Re: hand vs. stox
Yeah. I'm OK with that because even though it may be giving something away, it has gained me ten fold talking with those other fine players.
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