RRRRate me

4T25Q85 · #1 06-03-2005, 12:31 AM

I hate it when the big stack calls [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]. Was just moved to the table so no read. Super Weekday satilite, 390 entrants, 80+ left, 20+ make it

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

MP1 (t10170)
MP2 (t1708)
MP3 (t1660)
CO (t3273)
Button (t10597)
SB (t2120)
BB (t2715)
Hero (t8438)
UTG+1 (t5669)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1200, 5 folds, Button calls t1200, 2 folds.

Flop: (t2700) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t1200, Button raises to t2400, Hero raises to t7238 (All-In), Button calls t4838.

Turn: (t17176) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t17176) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t17176

durron597 · #2 06-03-2005, 12:33 AM

Standard

gumpzilla · #3 06-03-2005, 01:10 AM

It's sort of standard. That's a somewhat outsized PF bet, though. Now you've got a bigstack who has called a 6 BB bet and is minraising the A high flop, as well. That generally strikes me as a bad sign. Sure, it might be AQ or AJ, but it could also be TT, AT or AA (in descending order of likelihood.) I think at the very least villain thinks he has a big hand, but without any read I don't know how donkish he is or is not.

I'd prefer a somewhat smaller raise PF, as the bloated pot doesn't really leave a lot of options in what follows.

graydot · #4 06-03-2005, 01:43 AM

standard like others said, woulda played it the same, but bigger pet on the flop

Sluss · #5 06-03-2005, 07:13 AM

That is a pretty big overbet pre-flop. Half that would have been fine. Besides that looks pretty standard.

whiskeytown · #6 06-03-2005, 07:34 AM

it depends -

live, I would never raise 6 times the BB, but online, when it's so much hard to get wankers out of a pot, I've gone up to 5 or 6 times occasionally if I thought it was the only way to limit the field.

RB

Jacob_Gilliam · #7 06-03-2005, 07:46 AM

Agree with the previous poster. If your trying to limit the field, 3x big blind just doesn't cut it sometimes. If 5x or 6x cuts the field to the size you want, than that's the proper raising ammount.

regisd · #8 06-03-2005, 01:30 PM

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That is a pretty big overbet pre-flop. Half that would have been fine. Besides that looks pretty standard.

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Is it that out-of-line? It's less than half the pot, although only with TPTK.

prana · #9 06-03-2005, 01:48 PM

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That is a pretty big overbet pre-flop. Half that would have been fine. Besides that looks pretty standard.

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Is it that out-of-line? It's less than half the pot, although only with TPTK.

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we're talking preflop, no tptk yet

TexTiger · #10 06-03-2005, 02:03 PM

I really don't like this play much, at least the push re-raise. Here's why:

Your raise says you have a strong hand, probably AA-QQ or AK. Big stack's call says he has a good hand too, one that at least competes, or is playing position with something a little lower like 88+, AK-Ts, maybe KQs. What did you really get with the flop though? TPTK, sure, but 2 to a flush with 2 other cards that are well within the range for the button to have hit a set, and none of your suit. Your < half pot bet at least gives the button the odds to call and draw for a flush, but with the raise it says he either has a set, 2 pair, or the nut flush draw, and although he has you covered, he will drop to <10BB if you win, so his hand is probably pretty strong. If he has a set, you have runner runner A-A, A-K, K-K, or A-T (if his set is 8's) to win, two pair (assuming one is the A as he probably wouldn't call with T8) you only have the K to draw to, and you're a coin flip if he's on the flush draw with KQ.

IMO, there's nothing wrong with folding to his raise, which still leaves you 30 BB to play with, which is plenty of a stack. AKs is a good hand, but sometimes gets more credit than it deserves, especially on a flop like this.

TT