O8 6 max

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what changes in your starting standards do you make for these games. i have heard that in short handed games that you should bring it in with a raise but in the games i play its not likely to get the pot heads up or anything. most of the time there are 4-6 people taking a flop. so far i have just played the same quality hands that i played before but i think that i might do better loosening up a bit but how much