Preflop decision (live hand, lots of reads)

[Justin A]

Can you give us a little more on UTG? You probably have a better idea of what his UTG raise means in terms of hand range.

[Justin A]

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scrub just said he thinks I should never cold call here. Does anyone agree?

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no. floating is fun, espcially live.

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Can you really float against someone who never folds?

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No but you can cold call with a better hand that does well when the blinds come in also.

[Entity]

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scrub just said he thinks I should never cold call here. Does anyone agree?

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no. floating is fun, espcially live.

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Can you really float against someone who never folds?

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No but you can cold call with a better hand that does well when the blinds come in also.

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I wasn't disagreeing. I'd coldcall here. It's gonna be 4-way a lot and you're the best player in the best position.

I'm just saying it's not really a float.

Rob

[whodaman]

oh, i dont think i know what floating is. I'm a newb

[Evan]

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Can you give us a little more on UTG? You probably have a better idea of what his UTG raise means in terms of hand range.

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I really don't know a lot more. I'd never played with this guy before and I had only played one hand with him so far:

Preflop: Kill button checks utg, I raise KK next , he calls in MP, utg calls

Flop: A84
utg checks, I bet, he calls, utg folds

Turn: J
I bet, he calls

River: 3
I check, he checks and shows T6s (flopped a BD flush draw)



Once he bet out on a JQx flop with A high no draw in an unraised pot into 4 players.

[Zoelef]

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Preflop: I'm on the button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises</font>, sthief folds, Evan....?

1.) What is the best hand you fold here?
2.) What is the worst hand you cold call?
3.) What is the worst hand you 3 bet?


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**Grunching ftw**

I cold-call JTs to bring along the limpers or get fine odds to see a flop if they fold. 3-betting isn't unreasonable but my hand is technically just Jack-high and thus a bit weak to be so agressive. I never fold this.

1.) I probably fold QJo in this spot while QTo and JTo are more certain folds. I also fold 66- here.

2.) I can see cold-calling QJs-T9s, KJ-QTs. &lt;snip&gt; It really depends on the frequency with which SB and BB complete against a raise. If they complete, I might coldcall 98s/J9s. If they fold a lot, I would coldcall 88-77 at times, but these are marginal decisions relative to their respective alternatives.

3.) 77+. In terms of overs, AK-KQ, AQ-KJ, AJo-A9o, AJs-A7s

Edit: AAs an afterthought, I realize my range is too tight in spots since UTG is really, really bad.

I like Dane's input:

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I think my general plan would basically be to coldcall with hands that have good equity like suited connectors but poor showdown value, and 3-bet with hands that have showdown value like PP's, K-high and up, maybe QJ/QT. 3-betting with hands like 22 and A4o might normally be dicey because they are tough to play postflop, but it sounds like this guy is predictable enough that you should make money with them.

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[sthief09]

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scrub just said he thinks I should never cold call here. Does anyone agree?

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I don't agree at all. this guy was one fo the worst players ever. 70/10/.5 if I had to guess. one hand I turned a flush on an unpaired board and raised his gaybet. he called. river he bet again and I raised (though this was a mistake) and he called and showed a K-high flush. and this is after he already has verbally said about me, "this kid raises every hand."

[Danenania]

What do you think of the hand ranges I put out there dude? Interested in your input.

P.S. What did you guys feed Glavine? Looked like he was back to his glory days out there today.

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CC: 44 - 88, 89s-JTs
3-Bet: 99+, JQs+, A8s+, A8o+, QJo+
Fold: 33, JTo, A7o

Too tight?

[sthief09]

I played for the guy for 8 hours and I still have no clue what his range is. he was just stupid. what he did made no sense. he was just a complete disgrace. I don't think he showed down any of his raising hands though I can estimate he was raising 5% (I originally said 10 but that's not right. he raised mabye 5 times in 8 hours, which is only like 2%) and one time he raised AQo UTG and capped with it (though this is after the hand evan posted)