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Old 08-05-2005, 04:56 PM
esbesb esbesb is offline
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Geez, what could a solid tight player reasonably have besides a made flush or possibly something like AsK. I mean, he has to bet more than 30 on that board with any hand other than those two I would think.
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Old 08-05-2005, 04:56 PM
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I talked to thabadguy about it, I think I like calling a lot better than raising when he makes it 30.

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Is this whole thread some kind of joke?
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Old 08-05-2005, 04:59 PM
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Geez, what could a solid tight player reasonably have besides a made flush or possibly something like AsK. I mean, he has to bet more than 30 on that board with any hand other than those two I would think.

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This is like the twilight zone.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:00 PM
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Yes,as is the rest of the forum You thought MHNL was a SERIOUS poker forum??? WTF is wrong with you man? your sarcasm detector is broken, i suggest you fix it and then post.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:08 PM
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Yes,as is the rest of the forum You thought MHNL was a SERIOUS poker forum??? WTF is wrong with you man? your sarcasm detector is broken, i suggest you fix it and then post.

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OK. Here's how I see the hand, and I think you guys will agree.

When he makes that $30 bet, I anticipate that if I raise he will definitely reraise it to the neighborhood of $500. I just get that feeling, I don't know how. Call it a wild guess. So I don't raise, because I see this as an obvious trap (again, call it a wild guess). So I just smoothcall.

I think Iceman lost this hand. Call it a wild guess. So probably he should have folded. I mean, we all know the board ain't pairing (unless villain has KK). So why not just fold to the $30?

In fact, even if the villain has the naked A, we all know a spade is gonna hit. Again, this leads me to believe that Ice should fold to the $30 bet.

I hope we are not being TOO results oriented here.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:14 PM
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your advice here, while insightful, is clearly wrong.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:20 PM
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your advice here, while insightful, is clearly wrong.

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Well how am I supposed to know that? Until El Diablo posts, do any of us really know for sure?


Calling the $30 (as opposed to raising) is ridiculous.

If you want to say he should fold to the reraise to $500, I can live with that. In this case, my weak-tight nit tendencies are at war with my set miner principles.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:34 PM
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Calling the $30 (as opposed to raising) is ridiculous.

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Please explain why. This bet is much scarier than a pot sized bet.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:50 PM
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Calling the $30 (as opposed to raising) is ridiculous.

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Please explain why. This bet is much scarier than a pot sized bet.

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I think it is possible some people are advocating calling the $30 bet because they know he got reraised.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:50 PM
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of course, hindsight is 20/20, but I agree with calling the 30 bet. Why go crazy with your stack when you aren't a huge favorite against the player's likely holdings and if he has a made flush you would be pretty much screwed getting all your money in trying to get a boat. If he does have a made flush on the flop, why not call the 30 and see what the turn brings? If the turn pairs, you had a cheap draw to the nuts, and if the turn is not a spade then you may have a better idea of where you are at, depending on whether he bets or checks.
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