Pot commited or clear fold?

[minwoo]

$33 Party. 640 entrants. This is the FIRST hand of the tourney

#Game No : 2309450143
***** Hand History for Game 2309450143 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:13650143 Level:1 Blinds (10/15) - Monday, July 04, 17:00:14 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table(382419) Table #26 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: DBBR2 ( $1000 )
Seat 2: MlNWOO ( $1000 )
Seat 3: steff79 ( $1000 )
Seat 4: Bowbndr ( $1000 )
Seat 5: Yaros4ever ( $1000 )
Seat 6: johnson68 ( $1000 )
Seat 7: Tedi72 ( $1000 )
Seat 8: Turk41 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: adidas1256 ( $1000 )
Seat 10: kenhowell ( $1000 )
Trny:13650143 Level:1
Blinds (10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MlNWOO [ Ad Kh ]
johnson68 raises [50].
Tedi72 calls [50].
Turk41 folds.
adidas1256 folds.
kenhowell folds.
DBBR2 folds.
MlNWOO raises [175].
steff79 did not respond in time.
steff79 folds.
Bowbndr folds.
Yaros4ever folds.
johnson68 calls [125].
Tedi72 calls [125].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Kd, Qs ]
johnson68 checks.
Tedi72 checks.
MlNWOO bets [325].
johnson68 folds.
Tedi72 calls [325].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
Tedi72 checks.
MlNWOO checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
Tedi72 bets [350].
MlNWOO ?!

I never know what to do here. I probably would have called on the river if he just went all-in. But that 350 bet really scared me. But then again my check on the turn could have triggered him to make the bet on the river. I probably should have just went all-in on the turn if I was going to call any bet on the river, right? Oh, I checked on the turn because I thougth he had a Q...duh [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

What do you do on the river and how could I have played it differently/better? I don't really care if he had the Q or not, but I feel like I played this hand poorly, and it left me with a tough tough decision on the river.

[TheTimeIsUp]

This isn't a toguh decision on the river, it is a clear call. You are only down to a Queen. Bet the turn, if he has it, you are paying him off. He usually doesn't, though.

[minwoo]

What do you put him on? Keep in mind that he did call a PF raise in early pos. I think the only hand he is likely have that I can beat is KJs.

[TheTimeIsUp]

In a 30, this could be any King. A missed JT, or even worse. Early on, you can't give unknown players undeserved respect. Big time long time -EV.

[minwoo]

If this was was the 500k guaranteed....fold?

[TheTimeIsUp]

No way. Very easy call on the river, in any MTT.

[A_PLUS]

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I probably should have just went all-in on the turn if I was going to call any bet on the river, right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Only if you are sure he is on a draw (which I think is unlikely). If he has a Q, he is not folding. If he has a king, you are at worst tied, and he is drawing dead. If he doesnt have either, you arent getting paid on the turn.

So..check the turn, let him bluff the river and call him down.

[minwoo]

That check-call that my opponent makes on the flop really bothers me. I would have more confidence in my hand if he just check-raised all-in on the flop. Is it just me or does that check-call on the flop reek of a legit hand? (ie: KQ or any Q)

[TheTimeIsUp]

When anyone check/calls you, you instantly put them on the nuts? I don't know what to say to that.

[woodguy]

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When anyone check/calls you, you instantly put them on the nuts?

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No, but he did check call after the OP showed alot ot strength preflop and postflop, you have to include some hands you are losing to in your range for him. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Regards,
Woodguy