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Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 4 - 9 players (Converter: PGC)
Chip Counts: Button: 780 Chips SB: 845 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 850 Chips</font> UTG: 955 Chips UTG+1: 1610 Chips MP1: 1605 Chips MP2: 1085 Chips curtains: 745 Chips CO: 1525 Chips Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Blinds are 50/100 PreFlop <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 RAISES ($275)</font>, <font color="blue">MP2 folds</font>, curtains is All-In, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font> <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font> Final Pot:1170 Chips Standard-ish I suppose.. but I wonder what curtains' range is there? Especially as the raiser was Oban23 who had a few hands previous come over the top of Custer's raise (when Custer held 99), and Custer had folded for ~800 into a ~1600 pot. |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
You have alot over overlay, MUCH of the time. I'd call because of the overlay.
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
Curtains = MP3 in this hand. I'd be interested to hear his comments on it.
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I would guess that Curtains' range includes TT-AA, AK. It might include AQ and 99 depending on the initial raiser.
Pokerstove v. the tight range says: equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 43.2287 % [ 00.42 00.01 ] { JsJc } Hand 2: 56.7713 % [ 00.55 00.01 ] { AA-TT, AKs, AKo } If we can widen his range to include 99 and AQ, it's a clear call. As J-lo noted, we're getting an overlay of 1170:745, which means we should probably call anyways. Although, I can still see a possible fold there based on uncertainty about my read of Curtains and the fact that the initial raiser is still in the hand. |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I had AQo....that guy raises a lot and folds to reraises when seemingly close to pot commited. I would fold the JJ in custers spot however as the original raiser does need to be reckoned with.
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I thought it was very close, and thought about it for a while. Oban did not have to have much, Curtains knew that, and I knew that Curtains knew that. But Oban could have had me beat or had AK, and was only calling if he did (if I called). I didn't have a ton of chips, either. I wish you would have posted the hand where I folded 99 getting 3-1. That was certainly a mistake if your chip counts are right.
moses |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I still have it, don't worry:
PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 4 - 9 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 1085 Chips SB: 645 Chips BB: 1675 Chips UTG: 930 Chips UTG+1: 795 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 1175 Chips</font> MP2: 955 Chips MP3: 1610 Chips CO: 1130 Chips Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Blinds are 50/100 PreFlop <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero RAISES ($325)</font>, <font color="blue">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP3 folds</font>, CO is All-In, <font color="blue">Button folds</font> <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero folds</font> Final Pot:1605 Chips |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
Pot when it gets back to you = 1605
To call = 1130 - 325 = 805 And to boot, CO = Oban |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I should have certainly called. What was I thinking?
moses |
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Re: Custer Hand #2 - folding JJ to raise + curtains AI with 8BB
I'm not quite sure, but by ICM you need about a 40-41% win rate I think, so I can't see how you can fold unless you peg him for exactly AK+,JJ+ there.
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