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Old 02-22-2005, 02:56 AM
chipolino chipolino is offline
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Here are the books I got so far:
Small Stakes Hold'em; Internet Texas hold'em

Books coming in the mail:
Winning Low Limit Hold'em; Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players; Theory of Poker

I need a NL tournament book but I need advice on which one:
Harrington on Hold'em vs Tournament Poker for Advanced Players

Also, is this book worth getting: Middle Limit Holdem Poker by Bob Ciaffone

Any suggestions are very appreciated.
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:22 AM
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I dont play no limit so I will let someone else comment on that the ciaffone book is deffinitely worth a read. Also if youve already read(and understood) SSHE than I think you will fine WLLHE to be a waste of your time.
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Old 02-23-2005, 02:10 AM
Wally Weeks Wally Weeks is offline
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WLLHE by Lee Jones isn't the most "advanced" book since it teaches a weak tight style, it's probably the most easily readable and accessible by a novice player. SSHE by Ed Miller et. al. is a better work, but a longer read and more strategically complex.

However, SSHE is not a beginner's book...I believe it assumes that the player is not a complete beginner to poker (look at Fundamentals of Poker by Malmuth and Loomis) but it is still somewhat accessible to the relative novice. Someone that fits under the latter category will most likely find rereads of trouble sections.

So, I'd disagree with the statement that WLLHE is a waste of time. While learning a weak tight style is not great poker, it's a reasonable beginning style and good starting point. Playing weak tight in loose low limit games will save a novice money while giving them experience.

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:42 AM
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Contrary to the generally accepted notion around here, WLLHE is NOT weak tight.
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Old 02-23-2005, 04:57 AM
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Contrary to the generally accepted notion around here, WLLHE is NOT weak tight.

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It seems like it is to me, but I have no problem with that. The author does make a big point (i.e. assumption) that low limit games are filled with unknowledgeable/unaware opponents. Oftentimes it doesn't matter too much to vary play. But then again, it has been awhile since I've looked at this book.

Why do you not think the book is rather weak tight?
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Old 02-23-2005, 05:16 AM
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If you look at the book in terms of the games it is tailored for, I just don't see how it can be considered weak-tight. The book stresses tight-aggressive play preflop. Post-flop, the book says to slow down if the board looks dangerous and you are up against multiple opponents, and this is where I think it gets its (unwarranted) weak-tight rap here on 2+2. It doesn't say to automatically check-fold if there are overcards to your pocket pair, of if the board looks scary. It simply says be prepared to slow down and cut your losses depending on the action you see on the flop. The idiots (err, opponents) you see at most low limit tables are usually straightforward and will pretty much tell you by their action whether they outflopped you or if you are still ahead.
For the games this book is written for, it lays out what I believe to be the best and most prudent strategy.

Now for mid limit games with trickier opponents, I agree the book could be considered weak-tight. But these are not the games that WLLHE is intended for.
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:42 AM
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Unless your trying to build a really extensive poker library (which is fine if thats what your trying to do), I wouldn't worry about getting so many books. Rather, for Limit, I would focus on SSH, and for NL tournaments get HoH and and sklansky's book.

Other than these books, I really think your time would be best spent playing and posting.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:35 AM
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The reason I'm asking which books to get, is that I can get some of them for free through some affiliates. And I just needed some advice on which ones.
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Old 02-22-2005, 05:16 AM
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Both HoH and TPFAP are good books, but I'd definatly go with HoH if you are focuses on NL tournaments.

I havn't read Middle Limit Holdem myself, however, I have heard more good than bad about the book.
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:54 AM
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From what I understand (and I could be really off base)Sklansky's and Harrington's books are for tournaments and Ciaffone's is more for cash/ring games.
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