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Old 10-04-2005, 12:58 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Stop n Go n fold

Only thing I know about button are his PF stats at 61/5

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(7 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO checks, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB.

With the flop this coordinated + chance I'm behind, I decided to not 3-bet. Didn't see much value in it. Threw in a bet on the turn to get a feel for where I was and that raise just seemed like I had to be beat.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

On a coordinated board, I think you should be more inclined to 3bet to deny the free card play.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:01 AM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

I'm not sure I like this play.

If you were worried after the flop, why not check call and see the river?
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:03 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

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On a coordinated board, I think you should be more inclined to 3bet to deny the free card play.

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Well that was the bet on the turn is for.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

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On a coordinated board, I think you should be more inclined to 3bet to deny the free card play.

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Well that was the bet on the turn is for.

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why didn't you do it on the flop. I think that is whay he is referring to.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

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On a coordinated board, I think you should be more inclined to 3bet to deny the free card play.

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Well that was the bet on the turn is for.

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3betting the flop and then leading the turn will win you more money against draws than a SnG.
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:26 AM
Nfinity Nfinity is offline
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Default Re: Stop n Go n fold

I'm more inclined to Stop and go big hands when I want the raise on the turn, like say trips in this situation on a drawless board when I have the chance to trap a few limpers after me again on the turn, who might not call a 3-bet on the flop.

3-bet that flop.
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Old 10-04-2005, 03:30 AM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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3betting the flop and then leading the turn will win you more money against draws than a SnG.

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It also loses the maximum when we're behind (T9/96/...).

What's the plan if Villain 4-bets for a free card (something one of us might do under certain circumstances with CO coming along for the ride)? I assume you're not leading the turn if you get 4-bet on the flop, and now you've put in an extra BB on the flop, and not prevented a free card on the turn.
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Old 10-04-2005, 03:57 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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What's the plan if Villain 4-bets for a free card?

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you have to recognize that if he's capping the flop for a free card that we are getting 4 of his bets in on the flop with the best hand, and that he is immediately telling us on the turn by checking through that he was on a draw. then we look at the board, the river card, and consider if the opponent is capable of a river bluff unimproved to decide on our river action.
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