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10-31-2005, 03:38 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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First, if you truly believe this, you must concede that God in the Bible is vindictive and cruel. If you believe the God in the Bible is graceful and wants you to go to heaven, you are lying with this statement. [/ QUOTE ] Not if I'm a sinner, guilty before God, Who would be just to condemn me. A just God is not what I would be looking for. The great grandfather in the sky that so many atheists think we believe in is what I would want. [ QUOTE ] the first kind of God powerful monarchs and dictators would create. [/ QUOTE ] You mean powerful monarchs and dictators like Jesus (crucified), Peter (crucified upside down) and Paul (also martyred)? 
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#2
10-31-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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The God of the Bible is absolutely the LAST God any sinner in his right mind would invent. [/ QUOTE ] Not if said sinner's purpose was not to uplift, but to enslave his fellow humans. In that case, he couldn't have done much better.
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10-31-2005, 03:42 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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The God of the Bible is absolutely the LAST God any sinner in his right mind would invent. [/ QUOTE ] Nietzsche has written extensively on this subject and already explained how this kind of God is EXACTLY the kind of God the powerless would create, for it levels the playing field and reduces all men to insignicance and unworthiness, and raises the believers (the powerless in society) to be the chosen people who will one day gain all the riches of heaven while their oppressors burn in hell for eternity.
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#5
11-01-2005, 04:45 AM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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[ QUOTE ] The God of the Bible is absolutely the LAST God any sinner in his right mind would invent. [/ QUOTE ] Nietzsche has written extensively on this subject and already explained how this kind of God is EXACTLY the kind of God the powerless would create, for it levels the playing field and reduces all men to insignicance and unworthiness, and raises the believers (the powerless in society) to be the chosen people who will one day gain all the riches of heaven while their oppressors burn in hell for eternity. [/ QUOTE ] Why has NotReady ignored this post? It's by far the most interesting one in the thread. (Not surprising considering its inspiration! Nietzsche = teh pwn.)
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#6
10-31-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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[ QUOTE ] 1. Would such a fabrication be so demanding as the God of the Bible? [/ QUOTE ] This is an excellent point. The God of the Bible is absolutely the LAST God any sinner in his right mind would invent. The fact that people don't get this is proof of their bias and lack of knowledge of Christianity. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, the LAST God that a sinner would invent would be one that said that if you've ever sinned, then you will be tortured forever. But, the God of the Bible says that all you need to do is believe that Jesus died for your sins, and you can live in paradise. Sounds like an ideal God for a sinner.
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#7
11-02-2005, 09:16 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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[ QUOTE ] 1. Would such a fabrication be so demanding as the God of the Bible? [/ QUOTE ] This is an excellent point. The God of the Bible is absolutely the LAST God any sinner in his right mind would invent. The fact that people don't get this is proof of their bias and lack of knowledge of Christianity. What God did DS invent? What God did Islam invent? What God did Mormonism invent? But an honest Christian will tell you that he can never take his salvation for granted and it's theoretically possible he is still under the wrath of the God he "invented"? Most of us aren't that stupid. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't it an assumption that a believer is the creator of this possible fabrication? Why couldn't it be someone who wanted to create a religion that they could take advantage of? Much like a parent who tells "ghost" stories to keep their children well behaved.
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#8
11-02-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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Isn't it an assumption that a believer is the creator of this possible fabrication? Why couldn't it be someone who wanted to create a religion that they could take advantage of? [/ QUOTE ] Which someone are you referring to? The Bible is made up of 66 books by (can't remember the exact number) of writers covering 1500 years or so. Who's the inventor and what advantage did he get?
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#9
10-31-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
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1. Would such a fabrication be so demanding as the God of the Bible? The Biblical God is 100% holy and demands that we be as well. Living more morally than those around us is not enough to gain His acceptance. [/ QUOTE ] Why does God create beings that are incapable of doing what he wants to accept them? By this reasoning, each and every one of us were created by God who KNEW we couldn't be 100% holy, yet expects us to be anyway. [ QUOTE ] We give up the idea of Santa Claus by age 10. Why do we hold on to the idea of God? [/ QUOTE ] Stupidity? I stopped believing around 12 ^_^
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#10
10-31-2005, 04:33 PM
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Re: Evidence AGAINST Christianity
"We give up the idea of Santa Claus by age 10. Why do we hold on to the idea of God?"
Because we see evidence that the presents come from friends and relatives, rather than Santa. We hold onto God because we don't know where the universe came from nor what happens to us after we die. Ignorance and fear. Ignorance might not be quite the correct word.
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