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Old 06-02-2005, 06:38 PM
pokerstudAA pokerstudAA is offline
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Default J7s BB

This entire hand felt fishy. Did I go wrong somewhere?


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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

I have been trying to loosen up from the blinds. J7s seems loose to be calling a raise though. And this hand does not seem multiway enough - too loose?

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

I got trapped here. But I have 13 outs or so....

River: (19 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Rivered the nuts....Try to get tricky and check raise or just bet?
Final Pot: 22 BB
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: J7s BB

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I have been trying to loosen up from the blinds. J7s seems loose to be calling a raise though. And this hand does not seem multiway enough - too loose?

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What prompted you to do this (loosen up in the blinds)? I've actually found that I needed to tighten up in the blinds much more. This increased my BB/hand in the SB and BB.

Anyway... I think my threshhold for suited Jack in the BB to a button raise and 2 ep limpers would be something like J9s.

On the flop... I like the call, but I'm very tempted to cap the flop when it's 2 more bets back to me. Sometimes I'm an idiot that way but this will probably slow down the SB on the turn and may only pay out 1 BB on turn if you miss. I don't know... depends on the players in the hand (no table reads!!!).

Other than that... looks good.
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: J7s BB

I think the pf call is a little loose even with the pot being multiway. I wouldn't call with anything lower than J-9s here, but then again I am weak tight. The rest looks fine, you absolutely can't fold anywhere in this hand and there's no reason to risk getting the river checked through.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: J7s BB

Perfect.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:56 PM
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Don't listen to people saying to fold that preflop. I like the whole hand.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:57 PM
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Well done. J7s is definitely playable 5-way.
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:29 PM
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Count what odds you are getting by calling.
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: J7s BB

I'd probably fold pre-flop. Calling can't be horribly wrong if you play well post-flop. I'd definitely raise the flop. I agree with not capping it when it comes back to you 3-bet because you might lose UTG+1 and it doesn't look like you'll be getting a free card. Turn is standard. On the river it depends on how aggressive the button is. If he'd value-bet a set or two-pair here then I say go for a check-raise. If he won't then the bet is fine.
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:01 PM
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I don't know why anybody would advocate folding any two-suited getting 9:1.
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:38 PM
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I don't know why anybody would advocate folding any two-suited getting 9:1.

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I thought you'd left. Go already!
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nh, I agree with whoever said "perfect"
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