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Old 04-25-2005, 10:09 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Unimproved AK improves

Party 10/20. I have just sat down in the BB. UTG posted a blind. This is all I know of anyone.

I get AKo. UTG (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes. I raise, they call.

Flop: 8 5 5 rainbow. SB checks, I bet, UTG (poster) raises, button times out and is considered all-in, SB folds. I call.

Turn: K, completing the rainbow.

1) How did I do so far?
2) What's my line now?

Ta very much gents.

Guy.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

Looks like an 8. Check raising the turn seems pretty easy.

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Old 04-25-2005, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

It's a toughy.

If opponent has an 8, a bet may make him fold, as you raised from BB pf. If opponent has a 5, you are drawing pretty thin, and a bet will see a raise here.

You could go for a c/r here, but again, an 8 may fold to the raise, and a 5 will 3-bet you.

Without a good read (vs a poster on a paired board), I would go for the c/c turn and bet river.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

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How did I do so far?

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I don't think your line is debatable. It's standard.

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What's my line now?

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I bet out the turn. If I'm raised, I call and check/call the river.


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Old 04-25-2005, 10:17 AM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

I would bet to ensure it doesn't get checked through. If you do get the checkraise in, utg might fold his J8 or whatever that he might have called down with. Also, you save some if UTG has a 5.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

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It's a toughy.

If opponent has an 8, a bet may make him fold, as you raised from BB pf. If opponent has a 5, you are drawing pretty thin, and a bet will see a raise here.

You could go for a c/r here, but again, an 8 may fold to the raise, and a 5 will 3-bet you.

Without a good read (vs a poster on a paired board), I would go for the c/c turn and bet river.

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Do people really play a 5 like this? This is a hand protection raise.

Krishan
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

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Do people really play a 5 like this? This is a hand protection raise.

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Not often. But it does happen.

I think what I should have focused on was that if UTG has an 8, why would he call a turn bet?
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Old 04-25-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

You've done fine so far.

I would bet the turn against an unknown. The checkraise is pretty risky after you've improved your hand in such an obvious way.

Another reason to bet is the disconnected player will also discourage UTG from continuing any bluff he might be running.

You cannot stop UTG from folding a 2-outer like 77 or T8. But realize that in the long run that is a poor play on his part assuming you sometimes bet AQ/AJ here.
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Old 04-25-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Unimproved AK improves

Without a read this is tough, but I will often take a check call bet line, as you dont really have to worry about free cards here, and your hand is pretty transparent so if you try to check raise, or bet out so will often fold two outers.
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