Classic Clarkmeister Theory?

#1 11-10-2005, 11:09 AM

Villain TAG - 120 hands

First hand I've hand where I'm OOP HU with a 4 flush on the river. I have TPTK but there is also the straight/flush out.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 5 folds, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Now if you're Villain and know Hero is a TAG and may pull a Clarkmeister, would you play back pulling a Double-Clarkmeister? Thoughts?

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Spartan1983 · #2 11-10-2005, 11:14 AM

I think I only play back if I have a decent flush card or if I had TPTK.

sean c · #3 11-10-2005, 11:17 AM

Hi Fair i would have bet the flop and i certainly would have bet the turn after he checked the flop. You said the villian is tag not tricky or laggy so the river is an easy bet/fold.

adsman · #4 11-10-2005, 11:22 AM

I think you need to bet the turn.

Koss · #5 11-10-2005, 11:25 AM

I think I actually like the turn check. His play is pretty consistent with a whiffed AK, and even not many TAGs can resist betting an unimproved AK heads up when checked to, twice. I think he folds the turn a lot if you bet it.

gopnik · #6 11-10-2005, 11:58 AM

why are you so passive on the flop and turn? At least c/r the turn or something...

Koss · #7 11-10-2005, 12:11 PM

Not sure about check/raising the turn. I think it's safe to assume AK/AQ or a smaller PP here? The few times we are behind on the turn check/raising gets us into some serious trouble. I think a check induces a bluff from weaker hands and raising will just get them to fold. The only time I see it having any real value is if has a big diamond. Any thoughts?

TomBrooks · #8 11-10-2005, 12:15 PM

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why are you so passive on the flop and turn?

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Walker · #9 11-10-2005, 12:15 PM

What is a clarkmeister exactly?

#10 11-10-2005, 12:17 PM

This flop check is horrible. I don't care if villain is TAG.