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Old 06-14-2005, 05:28 PM
TexasBassDude TexasBassDude is offline
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Default \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

This has happened to me the past couple of times that I have played live and I was wondering what the reason is:

Whenever I get up in chips, I want to cash out for some of them, but the dealer and the players at the table won't let me take just a portion of my chips off of the table, claiming a "table stakes" rule. What in the world is this rule and why is it called "table stakes"? Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:31 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

the gamblers get mad if they feel you are ratholing your winnings. Why are you taking them off the table?

It's not called table stakes, that refers to something different.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

You must leave your entire stake on the table. That means you cannot take some money off the table, just leave it all in front of you until you are ready to leave.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:34 PM
dicelumpY2005 dicelumpY2005 is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

I was never aware of the term, or the definition of "table stakes"... Let me try and choose my words carefully so that I don't offend anyone... Taking chips off the table and wanting to continue to play is just plain being a puss...no, not going to use that word... Anybody who wants to take money off of the table during their session is a douc...no, I'll refrain from that term as well... Let's just leave it at this: if you can't handle leaving your stacks on the table when you are having a profitable session, then don't play...its that simple...
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

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This has happened to me the past couple of times that I have played live and I was wondering what the reason is:

Whenever I get up in chips, I want to cash out for some of them, but the dealer and the players at the table won't let me take just a portion of my chips off of the table, claiming a "table stakes" rule. What in the world is this rule and why is it called "table stakes"? Thanks in advance.

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Your stake is what you have in front of you on the table; no more, no less. That's what is meant by "table stakes". Once you place money or chips in front of you, or win them, they stay there in play until either someone else wins them or you leave the table. You're not allowed to "rat-hole" your winnings before leaving the table; until then, everything is still in play.

Also, you may not add money or chips to your stake during a hand; you're only allowed to do so between hands. If calling a bet would put you all-in, you can't pull more money out of your pocket either to complete the call or to raise.

HTH,
Mike
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:43 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

When you win money in a game, if you want to continue playing you have to leave that money exposed to your opponents, so they have a chance to win it back.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:45 PM
TexasBassDude TexasBassDude is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

Ok, well they say that assumption is the mother of all f*ups, so here's my explanation.

Last week I was in Vegas with some friends. One of them didn't know very much about poker, so he wanted to watch me. I was playing $4/$8. There was a $2/$4 going and I figured that $80 would be all right to sacrifice as I was up about $100 and the table wasn't getting any worse. So I take $80 off of the table, put it in a rack, and tell him to go sit at the $2/$4 table and have fun. Hence them pulling that rule on me. This happened a couple of times at various casinos; that's why I inquired about the rule.

So it didn't have anything to do with me being a puss or anything like that, so no need to get your panties in a wad.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:57 PM
AKQJ10 AKQJ10 is offline
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

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It's not called table stakes, that refers to something different.

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What have you heard the term used for? I've always understood table stakes to include both "rules" so to speak(you can't add during a hand, you can't subtract at all except for tips and similar).

FWIW I'm going to start changing seats when my stack gets big at Foxwoods $1-2 NL, because I don't think I'm a very good large-stack player. (A small sample of results bears that out.) If there's no waiting list, the OP could cash out, bankroll his friend, and buy back in of course.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

Table stakes means you can only lose what's on the table. If I raise you $500,000 more and you have $15 left, you can play for that 15. You can't take money off the table because it is bad for the game, and players who lose money to you want to be able to win it back and not let you take it off. It makes sense.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: \"Table Stakes\" rule in a B&M

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Table stakes means you can only lose what's on the table. If I raise you $500,000 more and you have $15 left, you can play for that 15. You can't take money off the table because it is bad for the game, and players who lose money to you want to be able to win it back and not let you take it off. It makes sense.

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According to the movie, "Shade," if I have $500,000 on the table and you have $15 left, all I have to do is raise more than $15 and I win the pot without contest. What a [censored] horrible movie.
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