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Old 06-28-2005, 07:17 PM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default 50+5r hand on party ... shocking results to come

About 60 left. 20 is in the money. I'm a little bit above average stack.


Villian is aggressive, but I haven't seen him do anything out of the ordinary. I'd been raising 2 or 3 times an orbit and have only showed down pocket jacks.

Bet the flop?

How is the turn push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t4300)
MP1 (t10300)
MP2 (t5095)
Hero (t6992)
CO (t1085)
Button (t3177)
SB (t2490)
BB (t4235)
UTG (t5360)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t1100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t6492 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t2235 (All-In).

River: (t11327) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t11327
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:24 PM
sapster sapster is offline
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party

What was your reasoning behind the turn push. It seems to me at first glance it is way too much risk and I don't understand what you are trying to represent, I bet this flop most of the time.
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party

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What was your reasoning behind the turn push.

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Does this not look like I have a strong hand?
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party ... shocking results to come

There is 2600 in the pot and you are risking 6.5k, if your opponent is not bluffing he is probably calling because what would you check the flop with? I don't think its terrible but betting the flop is better in my mind here but I could be convinced otherwise.
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party

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What was your reasoning behind the turn push.

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Does this not look like I have a strong hand?

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Not nearly as much as BB's OVERBET on the turn does. Nobody who overbets the pot is folding to a push (exception: UB players who hit the "bet pot" button anytime the action is checked to them). I think you're better off with a continuation bet / semi-bluff on the flop and then going from there.
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party ... shocking results to come

Bet the flop, you have J high, not a time to get tricky. I dont like the turn push, he's getting almost 3-1 on a call, so you'll get called by a lot of hands considering your flop check. It looks like you really didn't have any plan for this hand, and if you did I don't like it. There's a reason the steal raise/check behind/push line isn't used often.
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:52 PM
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He called with A-2. I suck ...
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Old 06-28-2005, 08:04 PM
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What sized bet would be good on the flop?
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Old 06-28-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: 50+5r hand on party ... shocking results to come

500-700
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