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Old 06-19-2005, 06:24 PM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default 2/4 party - would you believe me?

Villian is pretty good .. 15vp$p/4pfr and he's aggressive. On the turn he almost used his time bank he thought so long.

Is it obvious that I am somewhat weak here? Check the river and let a missed draw bet?

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Hero ($390)
BB ($646.5)
UTG ($445.8)
UTG+1 ($638.1)
UTG+2 ($143)
MP1 ($523.4)
MP2 ($400)
MP3 ($489)
CO ($280)
Button ($177)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($16) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls $12, CO folds.

Turn: ($40) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $95</font>, MP3 calls $65.

River: ($230) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $145</font>, MP3 calls $145.

Final Pot: $520
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Old 06-19-2005, 06:46 PM
Komodo Komodo is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

I would check the river or fire a stopper. Especially since he thougth so long on the turn.
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Old 06-19-2005, 06:58 PM
Alex/Mugaaz Alex/Mugaaz is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

Not to oversimplify this, but what are you possibily beating if the villain has a vpip that low?

You almost made him laydown his hand on the turn, a good attempt. But after that call he is more than psychologically commited to his hand. Your river bet accomplished nothing in this situation, and I don't see an overbet causing him to laydown here. I would probably check/fold the river.
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Old 06-19-2005, 07:06 PM
kagame kagame is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

you could always bet min in case villain has a K with a heart draw lol
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Old 06-19-2005, 07:45 PM
Jonny Jonny is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

I don't like the c/r on the turn. It needs to be bigger if you are going to do it so he will fold a draw. But I think a draw will check behind the turn.

River bet is going to be called by any Ace or better.
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:00 PM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

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River bet is going to be called by any Ace or better.

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I would not call with any ace and I don't think a lot of people will. Why do you think this? Would it be diff if the bet was bigger?
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:20 PM
soah soah is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 party - would you believe me?

A smart player isn't going to be thinking one street at a time. On the turn if he has a made hand he is evaluating whether to fold, or whether he will be ahead often enough to justfiy calling your turn raise *and* your inevitable river bet. I see it pretty frequently that a player will think a long time on the turn and then insta-call on the river when they do not improve. It's because they already did their thinking on the turn.

Your line here just looks like chip spewing.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:29 PM
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It's because they already did their thinking on the turn.

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good point
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