Trickery afoot?

[Dave D]

What to do, what to do?

***** Hand History for Game 2593374327 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15135844 Level:9 Blinds (200/400) - Thursday, August 25, 00:44:05 EDT 2005
Table $34,000 Guaranteed(433171) Table #11 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: clevelandohd ( $9399 )
Seat 2: pokerpimp56 ( $3850 )
Seat 3: dogling ( $8344 )
Seat 5: Poorichard ( $20447 )
Seat 9: eaflicek ( $1166 )
Seat 4: allinblind99 ( $2112 )
Seat 6: ericane ( $2560 )
Seat 10: neffman ( $4640 )
Seat 8: THE__D__RY ( $11345 )
Trny:15135844 Level:9
Blinds (200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dogling [ 7d 7s ]
ericane folds.
THE__D__RY folds.
eaflicek folds.
neffman calls [400].
clevelandohd raises [900].
pokerpimp56 calls [900].
dogling calls [900].
allinblind99 folds.
Poorichard folds.
neffman calls [500].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 8d, 3h ]
bryantto8 has joined the table.
Player bryantto8 has been moved from table 30 to this table
neffman checks.
clevelandohd checks.
pokerpimp56 checks.

Hero...

[flyingmoose]

I'm folding this preflop, even with position. The fact that you hit as safe a flop as you can ask for and are scared to bet is a good reason not to call off 1/9 your stack with the hand to begin with.

[runout_mick]

... bets 2300 and judges response.

[Dave D]

I'm the third big stack at the table, and see a fairly weak raise from a big stack. I'm getting over 4 to 1 on the call, in position, I think it's safe to play this for set value.

I didn't say I was scared to bet, I'm just asking what people's flop move is.

Oh yeah I didnt mention, it's the bubble and so people are likely to play tight, so preflop I'm thinking I might even get to check the flop if it totally misses me and/or a bluff bet might take it down.

[Dave D]

I actually did bet 2k, next to act quickly pushes for 1500 more. What now what now.

[mts]

what are you calling PF for?

[Dave D]

learn to read.


edit: slight miscalculation up top, more like 3.7:1 on my call. BUT I had good reason to believe one of the blinds would call, particularly the SB who had been in a lot of pots trying (with limited success) to throw his stack around.

[mts]

learn to not be a dick donk

[benkahuna]

Implied odds on the set. I think he needs to be more decisive given your stack relative to the starting pot. Otherwise, it makes sense.

[DyessMan89]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm the third big stack at the table, and see a fairly weak raise from a big stack. I'm getting over 4 to 1 on the call, in position, I think it's safe to play this for set value.

[/ QUOTE ]

You wont flop a set that often, and the important thing is that your bleeding off 10-15% of your chips in a multiway pot with most likley just a pair of 7's. I think this is an example where your just creating more problems then you need to. Unless you have a strong read on the player for a "Weaking raise" instead of "AA/KK near min-raise" then Im tossing it in. Anyways, on the flop, Im leading 2500, and not sure what I do if get re-raised all-in.

Given that you're posting this, Im sure you came out firing, and were trapped by 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].