The Gamblor Peace Plan - Fire Away!

[Gamblor]

1) Palestinian government that does NOT include Yasser Arafat. Arafat cannot be there, period. Not as a symbolic leader, not in his current capacity as the head of the whole pile of piss. The man has proven time and time again he is not to be trusted, ever. With Arafat, so the Palestinian government and legislative council (basically the PLO) should be gone. The new Palestinian leadership must be closely supervised by the US and/or the international community. If Arafat truly wants what is best for the Palestinian people he will accept this. However, he is more concerned with selfish interests - i.e. power but no responsibility, martyrdom but no death, etc.

2) The new leadership must call for and enforce the end of Palestinian terrorism. Obviously the terror groups won't simply obey the new government, but the first test for the new Palestinian leadership. If it can't control the Hamas, Fateh Tanzim, Islamic Jihad and Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades there is no reason for Israel even bother talking to them.

3) Israel should evacuate all the illegal outposts and withdrawal to September 28, 2000 lines (preintifada). Illegal outposts, whatever ideology they are rooted in, are against government policy and should be evacuated - not symbolically evacuated, actually evacuated. This goodwill gesture would be perceived as so by the Palestinians and the rest of the world. The IDF can withdrawal, as well as return, to this lines in a matter of a few hours. If the cease fire is enforced by the Palestinians over their radicals the plan continues. If not, the IDF goes back in.

4) After months of no terrorism, interim negotiations a la Oslo can begin. In the end, most of the settlements will be dismantled. The biggest ones like Ariel near the Green Line have around 80% of the settler population: This is to be annexed by Israel, as well as those of Jewish religious significance such as Hevron, Jericho, and full access to the Dead Sea. In return the Palestinian should be given equal amount of land from Israel. Possible locations include areas with large Israeli Arab populations such as Umm el Fahem, etc. This will reduce the number of Arabs inside the state of Israel and will help keep Israel Jewish.

6) The border between Israel and the Palestinian state will be fenced and heavily secured with gates, checkpoints, inspections. After a probation period, limited traffic will be allowed through for economic reasons. The new Palestinian state must be 100% demilitarized and under strict international supervision for at least 20-30 years.

7) Any violation of any of the provisions will result in immediate re"occupation" of the entire West Bank and Gaza, and immediate transfer of the Palestinian population outside the Jordan River

[Ray Zee]

great thoughts but no cigar buddy.

the palistinians would love any reasonable land for themselves but the terrorists amoung them will never quit until all jews are dead, or they are. so that has to be reconed with.

the israelis wont give up land as they have only a small wasteland for a country and want more land not less. so when they get some they are likely to hold on despite what they may say.
the best solution may be one where an outside entity puts the rules down and enforces them at all costs. which wont happen.

[Chris Alger]

The U.S. conditions all aid and trade with Israel on its withdrawal of all military and security forces from all areas beyond the Green Line, including East Jersusalem, and to tear down the wall. The U.S. further requires Israel and the PA to unconditionally recognize the national right of Jews and Palestinians to a homeland and sovereign state in the former Palestine.

Once those are accomplished, the parties agree to largely open borders and a UN-monitored mutual ceasefire, including the end of all targeted killings and violence against civilians anywhere. As long as the cease-fire holds, U.S./EU conditions all aid and support for Israel and the PA on the complete resolution, according to a fixed timetable, of all issues relating to borders, settlements, natural resources, sovereignty and refugees.

[nicky g]

"This is to be annexed by Israel, as well as those of Jewish religious significance such as Hevron, Jericho, and full access to the Dead Sea"

I see. And what's to happen to the populations of the Palestinian cities of Hebron and Jericho? Do they have a say in the matter?

[MMMMMM]

They get no say in anything until they dismantle their terror apparatus and cease all suicide bombings of innocents.

[nicky g]

So the entire Palestinian population should be punished. No distinction between civiilans and fighters. And they get their say after they've been kicked out of their homes and "transferred."

A question for you. If the occupation is all about Israel's security, why did it continue for 20 years with intifadah and no attacks on Israel coming from the Occupied Territories?

[MMMMMM]

I doubt there were "no" attacks during those 20 years, but I could be wrong.

Also most Palestinians today never even lived in Israel. Only a small percentage of those living today were actually kicked out of their homes and transferred.

[ACPlayer]

Instead of subjecting the Palestinian people to a genocide on the scale of WWII and the Jewish people to having to live with the history of the same (even if some dont mind, there are more Jews who probably do mind), I offer the following plan (at a minimum it should get rid off Yasser and Sharon,, which would rid the world of two terrorists):

1. The two presidents of the two "countries" be given six months to:

a. Formulate a peace plan
b. Offer the plan for a referendum
c. Have the referendum pass

If in six months they dont have a plan that passes, they are both publicly shot in the head. And another set of Presidents is elected and given the same responsibility.

If the plan fails, in that suicide bombings resume after the referendum then too they are both shot in the head (it takes just one incident).

This should begin the satiate those who prefer violent solutions, those who want Yasser killed, those who want Sharon killed, distract attention from the inhumanity in the killing fields, sometimes called the Holy Land.

[nicky g]

"I doubt there were "no" attacks during those 20 years, but I could be wrong."

There was no significant history of Palestinian violent resistance emenating from the Occupied Territories until after the start of the first intifadah in 1987. Palestinian terrorism was perpetrated by militants based outside of the former Palestine, in Europe and other Arab countries, by the refugees and descendants of the refugees who'd had to leave the ex-"Palestine"/"Greater Israel" altogether. The Occupied Territories became radicalised following the expansion of settlement activity and their realisation that the occupation was not temporary, and that the land was slowly being taken off them and settled by Israelis.

[Cyrus]

"[Israelis are] subjecting the Palestinian people to a genocide on the scale of WWII and the Jewish [have] to live with the history of the same (even if some dont mind, there are more Jews who probably do mind)."

There is a very large number of decent persons, Israelis and non-Israeli Jews, who have being quite vocal against the official Israeli policy. They are, unfortunately, the minority among Jews.

The most tragic aspect is that, in general, American Jews are actually more extremist than Israeli Jews on the issue of the Palestinians' future.