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10/20 TT
I'm still adjusting to the aggression in this game. The people I talked to about this hand did not reach a consensus.
I don't have data on the SB here. I have only been at the table one orbit and he played JJ extremely aggressively in one hand putting in four bets on the flop and turn. Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter Preflop: I am Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I cap</font>, SB calls. Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, I call. Turn: (8.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font> Okay so far? Now what? |
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Re: 10/20 TT
Edited after re-reading the action
You might be raising for value if he is jamming [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]s, but if he has a made hand it's hard to put him on a worse one unless he has a smaller PP. Getting 9.5:2 effective on the calldown I think you have to make it. I might have put in fewer bets total but I can't really find fault given your overplay read. |
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Re: 10/20 TT
YOu capped and he just bet right out? I'd go ahead and just call down from here. I don't think there's any use trying to get reliable information out of him.
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Re: 10/20 TT
Unless you have a firmer read on him, it is time to call down. Agro-donks can be hard to play. Sometimes they give you action galore with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], other times they actually have the goods and you are giving them tons of action with a lousy pair of tens. We're still not even sure that this is what he is. Slow down turbo.
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#5
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Re: 10/20 TT
When you asked me you said SB seemed TAG but you didn't know for sure. I thought you put too many bet in.
Rob |
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Re: 10/20 TT
I was going to advocate folding but then I saw that this was a blind steal situation. Looks standard so far, the decision is between a free showdown raise and a calldown now, right?
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Re: 10/20 TT
Against an unknown, I probably don't cap preflop and play the flop different. As I mentioned on AIM. Against unknown players and holding hands with showdown value, I like to take lines that involve cheaper showdowns. If I lack information, I'm not trying to squeeze every bit of value out of a hand.
As you played it, it's time to call down. |
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Re: 10/20 TT
hey dids, this is an easy PF cap after opening from the button. i also just call down after the turn bet. 99 is like one of the only hands you beats
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Re: 10/20 TT
My thought behind not capping is that I feel like it gives me more options in terms of playing the flop, given that some flops are going to make me cry vs. an unknown 3-bet from the SB.
As Jason pointed out- this could also be a game texture thing, as people may 3-bet steals more frequently at this limit than where I play. |
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Re: 10/20 TT
The way it played, I think it easy fold, but I'm not used to this aggression yet either.
More important question: If you dont buy his flop c/r, why not call and raise the turn? Not sure that's better... just curious about your thinking. |
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