Bankroll/moving up methodology.

[sprmario]

I've been trying to decide how to move up and when to move up and to set stop limits of when to move down and I decided upon the following methodology. It is based purely on my bankroll. I am currently 4 tabling and intend to stick to 4 tables because i can handle 4, I don't feel swamped w/ that many and I don't get bored w/ that many. Because of that I've decided to mix my tables based on the following table:

Bankroll Range Tables
$300 to 375 4 tables of .5/1
$375 to 450 3 tables of .5/1, 1 table of 1/2
$450 to 525 2 tables of .5/1, 2 tables of 1/2
$525 to 600 1 table of .5/1, 3 tables of 1/2
$600 to 750 4 tables if 1/2
$750 to 900 3 tables of 1/2, 1 table of 2/4
$900 to 1050 2 tables of 1/2, 2 tables of 2/4
$1050 to $1200 1 tables of 1/2, 3 tables of 2/4
$1200 to $1400 4 tables of 2/4

etc. The ranges could be played with a bit. I am currently at $605 and might still start tonight w/ 3 tables of 1/2 and 1 of .5/1 but will move to 4 after the first session if i'm up. It has taken me 2 weeks to build up $50 playing .5/1 up to $600. My plan is to 4 table 3/6 for a while and maybe cash out some keeping a minimum balance of $2000 and once I have a large sample at that level I'll start moving up to the next.

An interesting thing is that when I first got to $375 and started mixing in 1 1/2 table I was very nervous about that table and played a little tighter and I was usually much more profitable on the 1/2 table than the .5/1 tables. My VPIP is about 22 on .5/1 and 18.5 on 1/2.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.

[Sarge85]

I like it.

It doesn't look like you'll ever over-extend yourself, and you get a feel for the other games.

How would you model it to the "higher" limits - getting yourself to $5-$10 per se.

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[DMBFan23]

that's really interesting.

do you have any reservations mixing in the 1 table of the higher limit before you're bankrolled for it? or do you feel like the 3 tables of the lower limit makes up for this in win rate?

[afk]

I'll throw in the word of caution about 4 tabling (though I only stick to two). Make sure you're developing proper hand reading and player reading skills (which is more difficult with 4 tables than 2) - You're going to cost yourself a lot of money (or extra winnings) at higher limits without good reading skills. But if you feel you can develop these skills properly at 4 tables, then do that by all means.

[sprmario]

This is something that I definately will need to work on. Its one of the reasons I plan to make a stop at 3/6 even if I have the bankroll to move up. Right now I just rely on making the right play by the numbers and mixing up some marginal plays so that i'm not too predictable. i will probably even 2 table for a while at 3/6 so I can concentrate on the games more.

The main reason i don't do this at .5/1 or 1/2 is that 80% of the people are so so bad at these limits that its not really worth the effort to try and read people who have no real reason for making decisions. Also from a $/hr perspective, .5/1 doesn't really pay enough for me to spend more time than necessary on.

I'm hoping that by 3/6 I can make about 1 BB/hr/table which w/ 2 or 3 tables I can feel i'm not wasting my time and am making a nice return. I wanna be conservative w/ my estimates and I think 1BB/hr/table at 3/6 is not reaching for the stars.

[bisonbison]

I'm hoping that by 3/6 I can make about 1 BB/hr/table which w/ 2 or 3 tables I can feel i'm not wasting my time and am making a nice return. I wanna be conservative w/ my estimates and I think 1BB/hr/table at 3/6 is not reaching for the stars.

1BB/hr/table is roughly 1.5bb/100. At 3/6 this is within the reach of most micro posters. You might not be there right away, especially multitabling, but it's definitely possible.

I do want to say that you should consider increasing your bankroll requirements by 1/3 at every level. Going back and playing .5/1 again I realized that one of the best feelings you can have is feeling like the chips are just chips. Because of the faster swings that multitabling brings, having the confidence of a 400BB bankroll at all times can be a huge plus, because you're basically buying in for 100BB across 4 tables, and never have to feel like you're playing with scared money.

[sprmario]

That's a good point. I am reasonably confident that i'm a winning player at .5/1 and my early 1/2 results are good so far mixing in 2 or 3 tables of 1/2 already. The point of the sliding scale is to adjust to negative swings more rapidly so if i have a bad session w/ 3 1/2 tables and 1 .5/1 table and my bankroll goes down, the next session might be at 2 and 2. You can make the range for the first set of tables in the transition $100 so that you don't get to 4 1/2 tables till you hit $700 or make it even greater if you want to be more conservative. In fact I might do just that... i am not sure i'm 100% ready for 4 1/2 tables.

I like the fact that I never have to make a "jump" I just have mini jumps on this sliding scale. I did stick around 1 table for some time... a couple of times i would be at 2 and 2 and i'd slide back down to 3 and 1 and even 4 .5/1 and no 1/2. Its nice to get your feet wet and slowing get into the water rather than making big leaps and hope it isn't ice cold.

[sprmario]

Modifying my schedule... remember i'm already at $605 following the old one:

Bankroll Range Tables
$300 to 400 : 4 tables of .5/1
$400 to 500 : 3 tables of .5/1, 1 table of 1/2
$500 to 600 : 2 tables of .5/1, 2 tables of 1/2
$600 to 700 : 1 table of .5/1, 3 tables of 1/2
$800 to 950 : 4 tables if 1/2
$950 to 1100: 3 tables of 1/2, 1 table of 2/4
$1100 to 1250: 2 tables of 1/2, 2 tables of 2/4
$1250 to 1400: 1 tables of 1/2, 3 tables of 2/4
$1400 to 1550: 4 tables of 2/4

That's a slightly more conservative scale. I'll probably go w/ $200 intervals through the 3/6 tables up to $2350 to 4 table 3/6. At that point I'm at just about a 400BB bankroll.