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Old 12-07-2005, 03:55 PM
lacky lacky is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

well, if they do it for more fold e. it doesn't work on me anyway. If I'm close in deciding, the small chance they will fold to my push (and yes, they do sometimes) tips the scales for me to play.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:16 PM
Deuce2High Deuce2High is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

1) Not from me.
2) From me, it does.
3) Almost never... Unless my raise forces someone to play a hand in which they are pot committed, and I have AA or KK.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:40 PM
FieryJustice FieryJustice is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

I've been playing step 5s and step 4 highers for the last few days and people do this all the time. There are a few that will fold after they make the 2/5 stack raise but most will call. Last night, i remember someone putting 1/2 his stack in with J2s from the button. I guess they think it gives them more fe and I have learned to treat these stupid raises as pushes.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:39 PM
microbet microbet is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

Depends. Depends. Sometimes. I'm most likely to do it to get action from a weaker player. I can almost hear the other 2p2ers at the table saying "HE'S GOT ACES YOU MORAN!!!!" Against you 2p2ers I do it very rarely and with monsters and trash in the perfect GT proportions [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

A lot of the time in this forum I feel like reads are the elephant in the room that no one notices.

I don't mean you Cit.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:58 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

If someone has been pushing his 7BB stack once every orbit three or four times, and he suddenly minraises half his stack it might increase his FE to me.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:15 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

cit,

I treat those raises as pushes at all stakes unless I have evidence from villian otherwise.

I think the move convinces some players to push weaker hands and some players to push stronger hands than they normally would have played to an allin.

I only really use it to mix up my game - I err on the side of having a strongish hand b/c my hunch is that it lowers FE (and I play mostly at lower stakes).

Yugoslav
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:11 PM
Hendricks433 Hendricks433 is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

Well I was in a $11 and figured Id look a person up after seeing this post earlier. he riased like 2X the BB maybe 3X ish but half his stack so I reriased him all in with KQ sooted and he called with Q9 off suit.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:40 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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Well I was in a $11 and figured Id look a person up after seeing this post earlier. he riased like 2X the BB maybe 3X ish but half his stack so I reriased him all in with KQ sooted and he called with Q9 off suit.

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well, this is the specific reason that i asked about higher stakes games. in the lower stakes games i know what this raise size means. it means "the spasms i have from having such low brain power that i can't control my motion put the slider there."
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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it means "the spasms i have from having such low brain power that i can't control my motion put the slider there."

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nh.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

Lacky, tigerite, and citanul had sex with the proverbial mother of this topic.
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