Call down the overpair?

spacemonkey57 · #1 05-25-2005, 01:14 AM

Should I lay this one down on the turn or call down? Thanks.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

SteveL91 · #2 05-25-2005, 01:19 AM

Since you have the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] , I think calling the turn is okay; however, I'm folding the river. There's a 4-card straight and 3-flush out there: I can't see you taking the pot often enough to make the river call correct.

irishpint · #3 05-25-2005, 01:20 AM

reads? im leaning towards folding to the turn raise, since itll cost 2 BB to show it down, yet without reads it could be a bluff or sorts or raising with one high spade.

fluxrad · #4 05-25-2005, 01:20 AM

fold the turn. there are a ton of ways you're beat here.

spacemonkey57 · #5 05-25-2005, 01:23 AM

Villan is LP-P 50/0/1. I wish I'd had that read when I decided to call down.

cmwck · #6 05-25-2005, 01:41 AM

I think our spade outs are still worth something. We're getting 7:1 to call the turn raise. If he has 56s for the two pair then we have 7 outs (that don't put 4 spades on the board). We're ahead of A6. If he has a straight and no spade, we have 9 outs. If he has no straight, but has a spade, I say our spade outs are worth 4.

Putting this all together, I have no idea if we should call the turn or the river. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]