The worst city in America with a major sports franchise...

[MoreWineII]

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Is that recent? I was last there in 2002 and I loved it as much as the first time I went there in 1999.

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Yeah, I've lived here all my life and I've always loved the area. But now I'm dying to get out. I always held out some hope that Portland would make some strides toward becoming a bigger, cleaner, and better city. But it's just not happening.

- Traffic/congestion is terrible for its size.

- City gov't is totally inept and/or corrupt.

- The Willamette is superfund (i.e. so filthy and polluted it gets a fancy name).

- We have one major sports team, which is a mess. I'm a firm believer that sports teams often give a city its identity, or part of anyway.

- The people here drive me nuts. I don't really know how to put into words other than to tell you to envision a bunch of country folk moving into the city and pretending to be rich and sophisticated. That's your average Portlander.

- imo, nightlife and dining are substandard for a city this size.

- Our unemployment rate was sky-high a year ago. Not sure how it is now but im sure its still rather high.

- High property/income taxes (compared to WA at least)

People are fleeing across the river in droves...with good reason. I live in Vancouver now, but I'm buying a house later this year in Portland. I have this nagging feeling I'm making a mistake. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I think it just comes down to a decade or more of really bad leadership in this city that has allowed things to get out of hand. Downtown is still a pretty neat area, but all the surrounding areas are just trash, imo. Congested, polluted, infested with morons...meh.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Also, having gone to grad. school in Wisconsin, I was suprised that no one mentioned Green Bay.

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Also, having gone to grad. school in Wisconsin, I was suprised that no one mentioned Green Bay.

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I think you missed this...grad school in Wisconsin = grain of salt.

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Winter in Buffalo is better than most northern cities. At least they get snow. There is nothing worse than just flat-out cold, but minimal snow, like you would get in Iowa or something.

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Anyone say Los Angeles yet? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Anyone say Los Angeles yet? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I was trying to think if they had a major sports team...oh yeah, The Lakers.

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Winter in Buffalo is better than most northern cities. At least they get snow. There is nothing worse than just flat-out cold, but minimal snow, like you would get in Iowa or something.

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You obviously never had to shovel your driveway or owned a RWD vehicle while living in Buffalo, lol.

[Ogre]

Green Bay

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2. Sacramento. True, Oakland is a den of iniquity, but it is close to San Francisco, which has a couple things going for it.



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We Need More Cowbell!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Detroit... What a hell hole!