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Old 12-19-2005, 03:24 AM
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Just because you're some tripped out anarchist, that does not mean that everybody on this forum is. Instead of buying a new sarcasm detector, some common-sense judgement may be a better investment for you.

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My common-sense judgement is fine (obviously I was being facetious). Anyone with common-sense should realize that FDR did more to hurt America (overall at least, Lincoln was the biggest murderer) than any other president.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:40 AM
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No, FDR stopped the great depression and also played a kew role in winning WWII. He was totally aweseome.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:40 AM
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:41 AM
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If it wasn't for Lincoln, the entire country...well, it wouldn't be a country anymore.

Do you also think that we're a republic, not a democracy? You have a membership card in the John Birch Society?
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:10 AM
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we are a republic, not a democracy.

Am i not understanding you?
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:13 AM
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one of you is pro-government intervention one is not, why do you have to be so god damn bitter.

Newsflash nobody on this board has all the answers, and even with evidence to support theories of government no one here can prove one is "better" so disagree or debate or something, but clearly just calling each other dickheads serves no purpose.

edit: not directed at OP
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:55 AM
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No, FDR stopped the great depression and also played a kew role in winning WWII. He was totally aweseome.

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HAHAHAHA.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:08 AM
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No, FDR stopped the great depression and also played a kew role in winning WWII. He was totally aweseome.

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HAHAHAHA.

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FDR got us out of the depression by getting us into WWII, but he did certainly play a key role in winning it. However his covert intelligence operations in furtherance of involving us in the european side, and which might have been illegal in some respects, would have rated a serious congressional inquiry had they been known at the time. Nonetheless it was the right thing to do both for our longterm interests and that of the world.

Most of his domestic economic policies in the 1930s though were largely ineffectual, but he was trying and most importantly did succeed in boosting the morale of the majority who were very bad off. And although a rich man, he truly does seem to have "felt their pain", unlike Clinton who was just a huckster with no principles he would not compromise in order to get and retain power.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:16 AM
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After watching our Presidents speech tonite im very happy that at one time this country had some competent leadership which was able to aquire enough power and security that I should be able to skate through the rest of my life in relative comfort.

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Bush has principles and clear policies, it is just that you don't agree with them. But in trying to accomplish those policies he does a good job, especially in prioritizing the various threats facing this country.

The fact of the matter is that the economy is doing well and democrats are still considered by most voters to be weak on defense issues. That means they have no real agenda. There are legitimate criticisms of Bush's governing style, but they pale in contrast to the vaccuum that is the democratic party leadership in Congress.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:27 AM
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No, FDR stopped the great depression and also played a kew role in winning WWII. He was totally aweseome.


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Well, you have confirmed that you have an elementary understanding of American history, but I had already picked that up from your previous posts.

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If it wasn't for Lincoln, the entire country...well, it wouldn't be a country anymore.



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More proof of your all or nothing view of historical topics. Lincoln was not indispensible.

For the record, both FDR and Lincoln were good presidents, but time and war cured the depression, and the northerners who elected Lincoln made the decision to put a stop to the growth of slavery and keep the country united.


by the way, has anyone discussed the parellels between Lincolon (habeus corpus) and Bush (wire tapping)?
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