88 hand facing reraise

Pat Southern · #1 04-23-2005, 07:33 PM

The BB in this hand is very bluff happy, he doubled me up earlier when I had AJ on a KQT2Q board by pushing with A3 on the river. I wasn't really paying attention to the table too much and didn't notice anything from MP3, but anybody who overcoldcalls for 1/5 of his stack normally isn't great. Even with this info, is this still a fold? If so, whats the lowest PP you call with?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t475)
Hero (t1970)
Button (t1105)
SB (t1200)
BB (t1755)
UTG (t2400)
UTG+1 (t1375)
UTG+2 (t1215)
MP1 (t1925)
MP2 (t1260)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t80, 1 fold, MP2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80, Hero calls t80, BB pushes for 1755 3 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls for 395 Hero...

CardSharpCook · #2 04-23-2005, 07:43 PM

I think 88 is the cutoff, and I call this. I think probable hands for this move are 99 and below or AX. I'm worried about a coin flip against a couple overs, but I fully expect to be a 4:1 favorite against this player and 88. Not really concerned about MP3 - probably a Mid/low PP or some broadway cards, but doesn't matter much facing the overbet from the BB. I hope you called.

CSC

adanthar · #3 04-23-2005, 07:50 PM

I probably fold 88, probably call 99, definitely call TT. Yeah, it's real close. Don't worry about it, you didn't make a bad choice either way.

Mike Gallo · #4 04-23-2005, 09:12 PM

Pat,

Looks as if the BB wants to steal the pot and get heads up with the short stack.

I would make the call based on your read.

However if you think the BB plays well enough to know when to switch gears, then I would feel a bit hesitant about calling.

Given the description of the players involved I would call and hope to win a race against 3 or 4 over cards.

JaBlue · #5 04-23-2005, 09:14 PM

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I would call and hope to win a race against 3 or 4 over cards.

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why on earth would you want to do this?

Mike Gallo · #6 04-23-2005, 09:18 PM

why on earth would you want to do this?

Want to do what, gamb00l?

Mike Gallo · #7 04-23-2005, 09:19 PM

Your ok dude.

LethalRose · #8 04-23-2005, 09:20 PM

With 2K in chips and the low blinds i dont take a risk here and fold.

it may depend on the buyin level, but sometimes very strong hands play like this (huge push compared to the blinds) just hoping for 1 caller..

it is very close though, I call with 1010

I know its stupid, but early in a tournament I sometimes push with aces UTG or UTG+1, sometimes someone very stupid calls.

Pat Southern · #9 04-23-2005, 09:21 PM

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Given the description of the players involved I would call and hope to win a race against 3 or 4 over cards.

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I called, and it was probably the best scenario I could hope for. BB had Q3o and short stack had QJs. A J fell on the turn to give short stack the main pot, but I still picked up some chips in the hand.

PokerProdigy · #10 04-23-2005, 09:23 PM

Good laydown. It seems to me that you could call with about pocket tens and higher plus ace-king. This is just an estimation based on some of the information you've supplied.