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Old 12-22-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

Button: ($5,875 in chips)
Hero (SB): ($5,720 in chips)
BB: ($2,110 in chips)
UTG: ($1,295 in chips)

BB = 400

Hero dealt [4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

PRE-FLOP
2 folds, Hero bets $700, BB bets $1,710 and is all-in

pot = 3010

Hero?

Mostly a steal, but Q didn't seem so bad, but was this a mistake if I can't stand the re-raise? Should I have planned to call if I planned to raise? Are pot odds such that I should call anyway? Or just fold this from the start and avoid this stupid question? I really hate giving the BB free chips, but maybe raising with a weak hand is just giving him more free chips. Just push this so his decision is tougher, with greater FE?

Really appreciate thoughts on this. Probably a simple hand but it made me think a couple of times and I need help.
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

anyone?
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

Against a stack this short in the BB (<10BB), either push or fold preflop to avoid this situation. I'd push.

Getting 3-1 after his reraise, I think you should call.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:17 AM
clevernapkin clevernapkin is offline
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

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Are pot odds such that I should call anyway?

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You are getting 3-1, I'd call but I wouldn't be happy about it.

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I really hate giving the BB free chips, but maybe raising with a weak hand is just giving him more free chips. Just push this so his decision is tougher, with greater FE?

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Believe it or not, I think this is a great spot for you to raise. Given that the blinds are large taking down the blinds is a nice addition to your stack. Another note is that UTG is about to be in the BB, since BB==400 he's putting in a large portion of his stack. Therefore, if you raise here then the BB is really making a mistake here by calling with anything but premium hands.

Since the BB has only 5x BB, I'd push here rather than weak raising, then calling. That is the kind of play I might make if I had a premium hand.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

Just fold preflop. Or push if you want, either are better than this namby pamby raise.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

Actually you're in the SB I see. Easy push. He has way less than 10bb and it's effective stack (again) that matters. Does nobody ever realise this?
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

Like you said, push preflop to maximise FE.
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

You should have pushed. You certainly have to call getting 3-1 unless you have magical powers that allow you to put him specifically on QQ-AA...
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

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Actually you're in the SB I see. Easy push. He has way less than 10bb and it's effective stack (again) that matters. Does nobody ever realise this?

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Explain effective stack. Where can I learn more about effective stack ? Thanks
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: $11 PR Bubble Qxs reraised

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Explain effective stack.

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Hero (SB): ($5,720 in chips)
BB: ($2,110 in chips)

You're playing against only the BB here and since you can only play with 2,110 chips (the amount of his stack) your stack of t5,720 is 'effectively' only t2,100.
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