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Old 12-22-2005, 12:14 PM
joeski19 joeski19 is offline
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

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button most likely was going for a flush or bluffing.

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I hope your kidding.
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:20 PM
car ramrod car ramrod is offline
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

I thought clarkmeister was taling about when we had a decent holding and betting the 4 flush, not Q hi.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

I dont think bluffing into a TAG on a four flush board when said TAG hasnt once missed a raise the entire hand is going to be very profitable in the short run, middle run, long run, or EVER!


AA or KK with the heart here almost everytime.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:24 PM
Eeegah Eeegah is offline
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

I don't think we're winning this one time out of a million, let alone one time out of...12 or whatever it's going to be after the rake.

And I ain't excusing preflop. Calling when you're expecting the TAG knocked out and the weak blinds in is one thing, but calling two more when the guy you don't want is in and loves his hand while the blinds you wanted in have folded? Why?
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

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And I ain't excusing preflop. Calling when you're expecting the TAG knocked out and the weak blinds in is one thing, but calling two more when the guy you don't want is in and loves his hand while the blinds you wanted in have folded? Why?

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Calling the two back was pretty easy. UTG is an over aggressive raiser and I have perfect relative position on the TAG and good position on aggressive UTG with a caller in between.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:15 PM
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As for postflop....Everyone is right.

He never folds here.

TAG thinks for about 4 seconds and calls with black kings.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:09 AM
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what else?
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:31 PM
McHonts McHonts is offline
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Default Re: QTs.......post-flop standard?

This play seems really loose / weak to me. UTG Raise with only one caller in between, holding 1 gap suited connector I am folding every time. If I had made the loose call hoping for callers behind me, I am certainly folding to the next two bets.

OK, so now you have the OESD but there are two to the flush on the board (maybe 6 outs if no other flush cards come?) . Is it too weak tight to fold the the turn flush card? I do not like getting trapped between to aggressive players with marginal preflop cards / the second best draw. This play looks horrible to me and I would like to understand where I am wrong? I play FT .25 / .50 which is probably really different than party 2 /4.
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