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#1
11-26-2005, 04:20 PM
 Feltin Licter Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 41
Internet Card Generator

I hope I got the right forum...

How does the card generator work. Does a different card come if you make a quick call opposed to waiting 10 seconds for instance? Or is the river card for instance determined when the hand starts.

May be a dumb thread but I'm curious if anyone knows...
#2
11-26-2005, 04:29 PM
 BradleyT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 512
Re: Internet Card Generator

An ace is just as likely to come whether you wait 2s or 2.4s to make your decision so it doesn't matter that they do this.
#3
11-26-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: Internet Card Generator

Do they burn a card also?
#4
11-26-2005, 08:36 PM
 Homer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,909
Re: Internet Card Generator

[ QUOTE ]
I hope I got the right forum...

How does the card generator work. Does a different card come if you make a quick call opposed to waiting 10 seconds for instance? Or is the river card for instance determined when the hand starts.

May be a dumb thread but I'm curious if anyone knows...

[/ QUOTE ]

I think it depends on when you click the button, same as a VP machine. It doesn't matter, though, since you can't predict what card is going to come when.
#5
11-27-2005, 02:05 AM
 BruinEric Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 188
Re: Internet Card Generator

The general belief is that each major site is somewhat different in their method, but equal in the outcome. The outcome being that any unused card has an equal probability of being dealt next and zero predictability.

Some sites continue to "shuffle" during betting rounds. Others appear to work off a set deck ordering (like live play) which is chosen from any one of 52-factorial possibilities through the RNG and Shuffling Algorithm.

In the case of the sites where the deck is "shuffled" during play, you could psyche yourself out by thinking that your 2 sec call made your draw miss but just *MAYBE* your 2.00001 sec call would've given you the nuts.
#6
11-27-2005, 02:50 AM
 memphis57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 376
Re: Internet Card Generator

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Some sites continue to "shuffle" during betting rounds. Others appear to work off a set deck ordering (like live play) which is chosen from any one of 52-factorial possibilities through the RNG and Shuffling Algorithm.

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It's always dangerous to use absolutes so I could be wrong, But I believe that virtually ALL card-related programs work like this: The deck is kept in some kind of order and the total number of cards remaining is tracked. When a card is needed, the RNG spits out a number which is multiplied by the number of cards remaining, and that number card is shown as dealt.

Thus, there is really no "shuffling" as we know it, and the next card or remaining card order is not known - cannot be known - until the card is actually requested.

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