against my villian - live 8-16 - HAND 3

brick · #1 12-09-2005, 06:28 AM

Hand 3)
EP raises (average player), Mp calls, LP (PFGP-post flop good player from last hand) cold calls, I call with Ac8c from BB.
4 ways for 2 bets.
Flop: 9s8d3c
I check, EP bets, 1 fold, PFGP raises, I c/3-bet with second pair, EP calls.
PFGP calls.
Turn: Js
I bet (almost all in 1/2 bet left), EP folds, PFGP raises.
I call.

crunchy1 · #2 12-09-2005, 09:33 AM

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(almost all in 1/2 bet left)

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WTF?!?

brick · #3 12-09-2005, 01:15 PM

Sorry man. I don't like to lose more than 25BB.
As long as you know how to adjust for your all-in hand you can still make +ev decisions.

djhoneybear · #4 12-09-2005, 01:23 PM

What kind of evaluation are you looking for? Calling three bets with middle pair and a backdoor flush draw is spewing chips. Betting out on the turn to get the rest of your chips in is a donation.

crunchy1 · #5 12-09-2005, 01:31 PM

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Sorry man. I don't like to lose more than 25BB.
As long as you know how to adjust for your all-in hand you can still make +ev decisions.

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All 3 hands that you posted from this game (the AJo hand being the least of which) are marginal, variance-increasing situations that you put yourself in. For you to post these hands and then proclaim that you don't like to lose more than 25BB is completely contradictory. If you're going to play a little loose and try to push some small edges that's fine. If you're going to play a little loose and then walk away from good games just because you're down a little bit -I'm pretty certain this is a good road to long-term losing.

Aces McGee · #6 12-09-2005, 01:33 PM

Why'd you check/3-bet middle pair this time and bet/fold it in hand 2?

-McGee

brick · #7 12-09-2005, 01:37 PM

This is actually helpful if you think so. I put EP on big cards and LP on a draw. She would be very happy to raise a draw in this situation.

brick · #8 12-09-2005, 01:38 PM

I have been losing so maybe your right.
Would you say I should tone it down peflop to stay out of these marginal situations?

brick · #9 12-09-2005, 01:41 PM

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Why'd you check/3-bet middle pair this time and bet/fold it in hand 2?

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In hand 2 I was raised by a new player to the table on a board that had less possible draws.

In hand 3 I was raised by a known agressive player and I could put EP on big cards at least some percentage of the time.

brick · #10 12-09-2005, 01:44 PM

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Calling three bets with middle pair and a backdoor flush draw is spewing chips.

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I should clarify that I 3 bet the flop.