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Old 08-10-2005, 04:13 AM
Hendricks433 Hendricks433 is offline
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Default heres some hands.. Too Aggressive?

It feels like everytime I slowplay at all people suck out and hit a better hand. When I hit hands like these I never get value out of them. Whats a good way to play these? Hand 2 should I bet the turn like 400, but then am I pot committed?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1990)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1040)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t100) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t80</font>, BB calls t80, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (t260) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t140</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t400


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t2285)
MP1 (t3255)
MP2 (t1625)
CO (t1395)
Button (t785)
Hero (t1385)
BB (t1760)
UTG (t1010)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t300) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t225</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t225.

Turn: (t750) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1060 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t1810

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

MP (t5760)
Button (t1125)
SB (t1095)
Hero (t2185)
UTG (t3335)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t200, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, MP calls t400.

Turn: (t1300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1560 (All-In)</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: t2860
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:30 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: heres some hands.. Too Aggressive?

This is a bit difficult for me too, but none of those boards is really good enough to try to slowplay here, check-calling to the end.

I like slowing down on the turn a bit, giving your opponent a piece to knaw at to try to get a few extra bets.

But, OOP, it's just hard to get value. Still, don't go back to slowplaying, it's just awful. I think all these are fine.
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:42 AM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Default Re: heres some hands.. Too Aggressive?

slow down a bit on the second hands on the turn. remember, you want to bet just enough so that he doesn't fold, but also enough so that if he calls you with his draw, he's making a pretty large mistake. from what I can make out, this equates to a bet of something like T500 on the second hand (on the turn) and a bet of T900 on third hand (on the turn). about 2/3 to 3/4 of the pot.

BTW I'm not sure preflop on hand 2 is standard. I usually just push or fold in this spot, and your stack is too big for a push, so I fold
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