$5+1: Does this kinda stuff happen at the higher levels?!

#1 12-23-2005, 01:17 PM

All I could type was "wtf" last night. Is this what I can expect to happen as I move up, or will this kinda shiat lessen (I know it never truly goes away)?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t775)
MP3 (t595)
CO (t760)
Button (t1015)
SB (t1190)
Hero (t980)
UTG (t345)
UTG+1 (t690)
UTG+2 (t815)
MP1 (t835)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, UTG+2 raises to t75, MP1 calls t75, 3 folds, Button raises to t120, 1 fold, Hero calls t90, UTG calls t90, UTG+2 calls t45, MP1 raises to t835 (All-In), Button calls t715, Hero raises to t980 (All-In), UTG calls t225 (All-In), UTG+2 folds, Button calls t145.

Flop: (t3275) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t3275) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t3275) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: t3275

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Kc (one pair, tens).
UTG has 4c Ks (two pair, tens and fours).
MP1 has Kd 9d (one pair, tens).
Button has Ac 3c (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t1760. UTG wins t1515.

valenzuela · #2 12-23-2005, 01:19 PM

on the 11s hand like the one above aint rare, however I dont remember such wild action on the 22s and I have played like 300 of those.

splashpot · #3 12-23-2005, 01:20 PM

I would have folded to the all in.

#4 12-23-2005, 01:40 PM

Doesn't a push of t795 seem kind of supicious, especially since he first called?. If he had QQ+, would not the more reasonably thing be to make it about 300? And do I really need to be scared of QQ-KK in this situation? AA is the only hand that grossly dominates me (I'm about 1:4 against the AA's and I think and KK give me 2:5, so that kinda dominates too, but the 3:1 pot odd favor me for the kings :-P), right?

splashpot · #5 12-23-2005, 01:46 PM

Dude, it's a push and a call. 2 all-ins. Those odds you cited might work(I didn't check your numbers) if you were up against 1 player with the same size pot. but not against 2 players. This is an easy fold.

#6 12-23-2005, 02:16 PM

Yeah, with so many callers, I could expect to see QQ+ prolly along with an AK/AQ. QQ+ would then be the acceptable calling range, right? Would anyone place JJ in there? I'm really trying to get the finer tunings of playing people online down. I thank you for your aid in replying.