Student who was visited by Homeland Security

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Warrantless searches under FISA and the extension of those searches under the USA PATRIOT act run counter to the long-held principle that warrants (based on probable cause) are required.


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Section 213, delayed notification? A power that has been granted to investigators now for decades and has been validated by the Supreme Court.

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Tracking library loans and other actions taken under the USA PATRIOT act violate this same principle.


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Probably a reference to Section 215? Criminal investigators have always had been allowed access to 3rd party disclosures without needing a warrant or probable cause.

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The general principle is that you have the right to be left alone unless the government has probable cause to snoop (sorry about all the complex legalese

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Generally speaking, as a conservative, I generally agree with this. I just dont think that the Patriot Act violates those principles. And thanks for keeping the language, we conservatives have enough trouble with that as it is. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

All that said, my real gripe with people attacking the Patriot Act, is more of an irritation with their almost pathological inability to provide any details. I think your post is by far the best Ive seen in response to my challenge. Guess this means you are my monkey! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]