Top trips top K with 3 to broadway and 3-flush on river - value bet?

MiguelSanchez · #1 08-31-2005, 04:08 AM

Do I bet here? I am wondering if worse hands will call, and if it is worth risking a check/raise. All the check/calling smells like a draw, and with this many players I'm wondering if it is likely someone has hit their flush or is slow playing the broadway straight.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero...?

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

Kumubou · #2 08-31-2005, 04:12 AM

Bet the river!

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All the check/calling smells like a draw

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All the check/calling smells like donks doing donk things. Would it shock me if someone flipped up two clubs? No. Is it going to happen more than 25% of the time? No, so bet for value. Lots of worse hands will call -- weaker trip Ks, Qs, Ts, smaller PPs, 2s, A-high, baseball cards...

-K

marchron · #3 08-31-2005, 05:11 AM

If someone's slowplaying, they're playing verrrrry slow.

A donkbet into you at this point would look more like a completed draw. Bet for value.

If someone has a straight/flush and donk-checkraises you, pay them off: you should have lost a lot more money on this hand if they have it, anyway.

@bsolute_luck · #4 08-31-2005, 05:39 AM

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baseball cards...

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we gotta fold to a c/r though right?

MATT111 · #5 08-31-2005, 06:08 AM

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baseball cards...

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we gotta fold to a c/r though right?

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No.
I am not well over 90% sure I am beat.

MiguelSanchez · #6 08-31-2005, 07:58 PM

Yeah it looks like I'm supposed to bet here. What happens if it's check/raised and there's another cold caller before you? Clear fold then?

I guess I'm still in my "too passive" mindset. I spent 10k hands being too passive, another 5k way too aggressive, and now I'm back to somewhere in between...