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Old 10-29-2005, 06:08 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default AA v. two 2+2ers

bakku, blumpkin22, DeathDonkey and I are screwing around at a 9-handed Commerce 3/6 table.

blumpkin22 raises UTG, DeathDonkey 3-bets in the hijack. I am in the BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

blumpkin22 is tilting pretty badly after some pretty sick beats. He's playing a little too LAGgy.

DeathDonkey is running at about 100/75/3. He's playing to win every pot he enters. He's still being somewhat observant when someone like me enters the hand and realizes at those points he might need to actually have a hand.

So I just call intending to get tricky post flop. blumpkin22 just calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Old 10-29-2005, 06:12 PM
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Is your range really that different when you call instead of capping? Cap and lead PF > call and get tricky OOP. Since you decided to get all FPS on us I'd checkraise the flop.

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Old 10-29-2005, 06:14 PM
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Is your range really that different when you call instead of capping? Cap and lead PF > call and get tricky OOP. Since you decided to get all FPS on us I'd checkraise the flop.

Rob

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I haven't been donking around enough for them to not put me on a monster if I cap. I wanted extra big street bets.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: AA v. two 2+2ers

checkraise the flop/cap if possible.

lead out on 4th and 5th.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:19 PM
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Is your range really that different when you call instead of capping? Cap and lead PF > call and get tricky OOP. Since you decided to get all FPS on us I'd checkraise the flop.

Rob

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I haven't been donking around enough for them to not put me on a monster if I cap. I wanted extra big street bets.

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My point wasn't necessarily that you have a monster if you cap. It's that against them, you've got a monster if you don't cap.

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Old 10-29-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: AA v. two 2+2ers

I'd check call here, and go apeshit on the turn. Leading here getting DD to raise it wouldn't be a bad thing either


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DeathDonkey is running at about 100/75/3.

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hahahahahaha, nice
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:22 PM
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My point wasn't necessarily that you have a monster if you cap. It's that against them, you've got a monster if you don't cap.

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I'm not sure why you think this.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:23 PM
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My point wasn't necessarily that you have a monster if you cap. It's that against them, you've got a monster if you don't cap.

Rob

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I'm not sure why you think this.

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What's your calling range, calling two cold in the BB against these two players, when one is a UTG raise (albeit tilting) and the other 3-bet the UTG raise (albeit by a retarded donkeylag). IMO if you're in a position here where you significantly disguising your hand by calling then you're probably not capping enough hands against these two when they're playing like this.

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Old 10-29-2005, 06:26 PM
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What's your calling range, calling two cold in the BB against these two players, when one is a UTG raise (albeit tilting) and the other 3-bet the UTG raise (albeit by a retarded donkeylag). IMO if you're in a position here where you significantly disguising your hand by calling then you're probably not capping enough hands against these two when they're playing like this.

Rob

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We don't have much of a history.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:43 PM
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Bet 3bet DD.
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