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#11
09-21-2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
This is just fine. It's essentailly the same as saying 'I'll raise as many chips as you have'. Some other posters here seem to be saying you're better off just saying 'all in' - but that's a very different bet if there are other people still to act...
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#12
09-22-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
It’s a cheap angle. I find this used a lot by the same clowns who don’t want to show their cards first when called, or only want to show one.
I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me. It’s up to the bettor to specify an amount and place a bet. My response to “I’ll put you all in” “how much are you betting exactly?” When they say “All that you have” I respond, “How much is that exactly? What is your bet?, Are you going all in?” If they ask how much I have, I respond by pointing at my stack and saying “this much, what is your bet?” BTW in major tournaments “I’ll put you all in” is not a legitimate bet.
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#13
09-22-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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BTW in major tournaments “I’ll put you all in” is not a legitimate bet. [/ QUOTE ] I was watching the 1K NL (rebuy) event last night and this situation came up. I think it was a hand between La and Law, where La made a bet and Law said "I'll put him all in". They took that as the official bet and La called and the hand went to showdown. Now, I would consider the WSOP a pretty major event, but it was televised. Maybe they let it go because it just sounds cooler or something. On the other hand, this is why we have people making "bets" like that.
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#14
09-22-2005, 12:37 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
SlamDunk, I think it's fine if a raiser wants to know how much his opponent has left, and then raise that amount. I don't know if you're technically obligated to tell me, but I assume that in a real tournament I could ask the dealer for his chip count and get it. I don't see a problem with this at all, and to refuse to offer a chip count just strikes me as being a dick and angry about being put at a decision for all your chips.
With that said, I think people like to say "I put you all-in" simply because of the psychological factor. It drives home the point that HE is putting YOU at a decision for all of your YOUR chips, not his. It is far more dramatic than announcing all-in to cover the original bettor, and a lot of megalomaniacs at my home games like to use it. It makes them feel big, I guess?
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#15
09-22-2005, 12:39 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me. [/ QUOTE ] Yes you are.
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#16
09-22-2005, 01:54 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me. It’s up to the bettor to specify an amount and place a bet. My response to “I’ll put you all in” “how much are you betting exactly?” When they say “All that you have” I respond, “How much is that exactly? What is your bet?, Are you going all in?” If they ask how much I have, I respond by pointing at my stack and saying “this much, what is your bet?” [/ QUOTE ] Wow what a joke. You sound really fun to play cards with.
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#17
09-22-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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Yes you are. [/ QUOTE ] Only if I go all in.
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#18
09-22-2005, 02:21 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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[ QUOTE ] Yes you are. [/ QUOTE ] Only if I go all in. [/ QUOTE ] Not true. If I am in a hand with you, and I want a chip count, I have every right to obtain one.
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#19
09-22-2005, 02:24 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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[ QUOTE ] Yes you are. [/ QUOTE ] Only if I go all in. [/ QUOTE ] In a home poker game with no dedicated dealer, if a player asks how much you have (a legitimate question), IMO you should get to counting or have your chips separated out so the player can count them on his own. Knowing another player's chip count is important when determining a bet. No I may not want to risk all of my chips (by blindly declaring All-in), BUT I may want to bet exactly how much you have once I know your chip count. File this under "not a big deal"
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#20
09-22-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me. [/ QUOTE ] You could not be more incorrect. You could try... But you would not succeed.
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