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Old 06-23-2005, 04:07 PM
sirio11 sirio11 is offline
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Default Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

Event: WSOP#11 $2000 Pot Limit Holdem

7th level: Blinds 200-400

Player A has about 26000
Player B has about 18000

A open-raises to 1200 in MP, B calls in the button.

Pot = 3000

Flop: K65 A checks, B checks

Turn: 3 A checks, B bets 1700, A thinks and raise to 4200 (2500 more), B thinks for a moment and calls the raise.

River: 4 A hesitates and then decides to bet the pot (about 11400), B goes into the tank, A looked nervous, after a while B decides to call the bet.

Player A: A7s
Player B: did not show
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

Wait, A wins with no pair?
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

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Wait, A wins with no pair?

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No pair, but a one card straight.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

Looks like a straight to me.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

He hit a straight
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

So you're telling me that B called off his entire stack on this one? Or close to it if I can still add, 1200 + 4200 + 11400 = 16800 and he started with 18k?

On what I can only assume is AK/KQ with a 4 straight on the board? With blinds of 200/400 he's hardly desperate, and I have to believe he'd play a set more aggressively than this.

Overall I hate this hand.

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Old 06-23-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

If i want to bluff this pot generally I'd rather call the turn and lead the river here. Also, if player A wants to take the pot down he'd do better to bet the flop. The only way this play really makes sense to me is if A picked up that B was weak by the way B bet the turn. Also I can't see B having anything but a big ace (maybe two pair, but I think more likely he couldnt get off AQ).
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:35 PM
sirio11 sirio11 is offline
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

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So you're telling me that B called off his entire stack on this one? Or close to it if I can still add, 1200 + 4200 + 11400 = 16800 and he started with 18k?


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Yes, he was out shortly after this hand.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

I need to clarify my last post, since my brain skipped about 3 steps before my fingers typed. The only reason to cr the turn is to bluff out a better A (all the while having 7 emergency outs). Otherwise calling is clearly the superior play (a hand that might be good with 7 outs to improve to beat a hand like AQ, AJ). I think the best play for A is to call the turn and blocking bet the river. Hopefully we will get some hands like A10 to fold and also make it impossible for a hand we have beaten to push us off the pot (since A7 can't call a big bet but might very well be the best hand).
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Old 06-23-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Hands from the WSOP (Hand #5)

Im not sure if im following your posts completely, but if i am i have a couple of questions:

1) What made hands are checking the flop, check-calling the turn, then leading the river? I feel like the flop check is really wierd and kind of cripples you for the rest of the hand, if u are trying to set up a play later.

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also make it impossible for a hand we have beaten to push us off the pot (since A7 can't call a big bet but might very well be the best hand).


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What hands is A7 better than?

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The only reason to cr the turn is to bluff out a better A (all the while having 7 emergency outs


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Isn't this exactly what we want to do? or maybe fold out a medium pair by raising the turn and betting the river? It doesn't seem like pairs will fold if you check call the turn and lead the river.
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