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Old 12-15-2005, 11:58 PM
brimstone1 brimstone1 is offline
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Default Re: ($22): AK, turn makes things very interesting.

BB's mistake was betting 55 and giving you the proper odds to draw to your flush. Wish he would've bet 75-90 so we didnt have this problem.

So your turn call is "ok" (1:3.9 from pot, 1:4.1 needed just for the flush, +ton more outs if he's just bluffing at the pot, +implied odds, position on a bettor BB... I'd say you're good to go).

But, although you 'seem' to have lots of outs (9 spades, TTT, AAA, KK) considering the board and the betting, we can safely say that A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are no longer outs. TPTK would not cut it here. So thats -5 outs right there.

You either have to hit the nut straight, and pray one of the two hasn't hit his flush, or hit the flush yourself.

This is of course being optimistic, and saying that the Ts are all still live, whereas in reality at least one of your Ts is obviously in the hands of one of your opponents, and only good if the other opponent hasn't hit his flush.

Since action doesn't close on you, and the high likelyhood that the BB and the button are going into a mini-raise (eventually all-in) war with their respective made hands, just back off and relax. No need to get sandwiched into giving up your stack on a draw here. It's still very early in the game.

As for in the future, do what tigerite tells you to do. He knows what he's talking about. Raising PF, and continuation betting depending on number of callers, position, and flop texture is my default line here.
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