Logic in an atheistic worldview

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atheism is a hope that we are insignifficant, purposeless beings that are going to bite the dust soon enough.

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This is catagorially false. Atheism has nothing to do with "hope" for anything. It's simply the the lack in any belief in a specific supernatural explanation for the universe.

Let me put it this way, I don't think Christianity is a reasonable explanation for the universe. Furthermore, I have never come across any supernatural belief system that is either. All atheists feel this way and this is what makes us atheists. Nothing more.

But it does mean that you believe that we are in fact insignifficant, purposeless beings, and that when we die the dust is our home. Is this what you believe?

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But it does mean that you believe that we are in fact insignifficant, purposeless beings, and that when we die the dust is our home. Is this what you believe?

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As an atheist I have no reason to believe/expect anything more. I accept this as a reality I can't change.

You could say I'm serendipitous about it.

[Lestat]

Being part of the process is NOT insignificant or purposeless. Life is what you make of it.

I often wonder what would happen if science ever DID prove the non-existence of god. Would all theists jump off bridges because they could see no significance in living another day? Un-friggin real.

[Jeff V]

"I often wonder what would happen if science ever DID prove the non-existence of god. Would all theists jump off bridges because they could see no significance in living another day? Un-friggin real."

Reverse that question, and give your answer.

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"I often wonder what would happen if science ever DID prove the non-existence of god. Would all theists jump off bridges because they could see no significance in living another day? Un-friggin real."

Reverse that question, and give your answer.

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You didnt think this through. The answer is that if I saw proof god existed, I would not jump of a bridge, I would convert to the relevant religion.

Now you give your answer to the original question.

[Jeff V]

It's a rdiculous question was my point. Scratch that. I mean oh heavens yes I'd just gather my family and all my believing friends, go to a church and drink poisoned kool-ade on a Sunday and just end it all.

[hmkpoker]

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It's a rdiculous question was my point. Scratch that. I mean oh heavens yes I'd just gather my family and all my believing friends, go to a church and drink poisoned kool-ade on a Sunday and just end it all.

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If I might ask the question in a sincere fashion, what would you do if it were sufficiently "proven" to you that there was no God or afterlife? (And didn't believe because of Pascal's wager, etc.) I'm curious about this because it often seems that Christians hold the mortal life in relative apathy (and justifiably so).

And ridiculous or not, this is a philosophy forum, and we should not be strangers to the impossible but interesting "what if" scenarios.

[Lestat]

If I ever found out there was a god, I certainly wouldn't jump off a bridge. I might even become more religious than you are now.

This is what amazes me about theists who try and contemplate the mind of an atheist. As if all atheists have heathenistic reasons for refusing to conform. Most atheists are atheists for the exact same reasons you might not believe in Nessie, Yeti, or Ogres. It is not some conscious effort to rebel. It's just that there are no legitimate reasons to believe in such things.

What I was trying to get at with my question, was that if there ever was a reason to believe in god, I honestly don't think most atheists would be upset. They would simply change their beliefs. If god was disproved however, I doubt most theists could handle it.

[Jeff V]

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If god was disproved however, I doubt most theists could handle it.


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That is bullsh*t, and says much about you.