Why does this happen in online poker?

[trumpman84]

So, I'm playing a game at party poker. I get dealt 44 and two others get 22, and JJ. The JJ limps so we all see the flop.

The flop comes out 4, 2, J giving all of us a set. The set of 2's bets out, the J's raises all in and I call. The JJ actually gets 4 of a kind of the river and takes the huge pot. I type: "That hand just seems impossible." Afterwards, I did some odds calculating. At a 10 handed table, the odds for 3 people to get dealt a pocket pair on the same hand is 1229 to 1. The odds of 3 people improving a pocket pair to a set on the flop of the same hand is 729 to 1. So, the odds of both of these things happening on the same hand is approx. 894,941 to 1. It just doesn't seem likely that even through a lifetime a playing poker, you would ever see this, but even if it happened once, I would be ok...everything happens at one time or another. It's just that these really improbably hands happen all the time it seems.

The guy who had the jacks said that earlier the same day, he was playing in a tournament in which him and another guy both got pocket kings and they were playing against a guy who had pocket Aces on the first hand. All 3 went all in....and the pocket K's with no K's left in the deck, outdrew the pockets A's and chopped the pot with a straight.

I've noticed that these just totally unlikely don't seem to happen nearly as much at other poker sites I've been to or in real life games, so is it something with party poker or is it just some coincidence? What do you think?

[Tyler Durden]

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I've noticed that these just totally unlikely don't seem to happen nearly as much at other poker sites I've been to or in real life games, so is it something with party poker or is it just some coincidence? What do you think?

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I think all online poker is rigged.

[JTG51]

Ah, finally a new topic to discuss.

Internet poker is clearly rigged. In fact, a guy I know once made two royal flushes within a couple of hours.

Oh wait, that was in a casino. Clearly casino poker is rigged.

[Cubswin]

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At a 10 handed table, the odds for 3 people to get dealt a pocket pair on the same hand is 1229 to 1.

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Can I see your math please?

regards
cubswin

[bdk3clash]

I'll let other posters handle the "Is online poker rigged," but I'd just like the point out the following hand which happened in my home game.

4 players saw the flop with 44, 77, 99, and TT. The flop was 4 7 9.

The turn was a T.

Clearly, our home game was rigged. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ZeeJustin]

(copy and pasted from IRC)

[16:34] <Huey> basically
[16:35] <Huey> nate was playing in Vegas
[16:35] <Huey> big hand raised like 9 ways
[16:35] <Huey> he has 22
[16:35] <Huey> flop 922
[16:35] <Huey> Tons and tons of action
[16:35] <Huey> turn blank
[16:35] <Huey> lots of action
[16:35] <Huey> river 2
[16:35] <Huey> so then the dude calls nate and he flips up one card
[16:35] <Huey> and the dude is like lets see the other card
[16:35] <Huey> then the casino had to give everyone their money back from the pot

[trumpman84]

Certainly...

The odds of getting dealt any pocket pair are 16 to 1. It happening 3 times on the same hand therefore is 16x16x16= 4,096 to 1...however this is only if there are 3 people playing so I divided it by 3.3333 since that is how many chances it has on a 10 handed and got 1228.8 or 1229 to 1. (Not sure if I did this part correctly with the dividing by 3.333)

Second part. You have a 9 to 1 chance to flop a set if you hold a pocket pair. Again 9x9x9 = 729 to 1. Since there are only 3 chances for this to happen and 3 cards dealt, I didn't dived this one.

Now you take 1229 (the odds of 3 people getting dealt a pocket pair in a 10 handed table) x 729 (the odds of 3 people flopping a set on the same hand) and get 895941 to 1. Now I'm no math or statistics expert, so if you are, feel free to correct.

Also, I'm not saying that ANY time this happens, it's wrong, I'm just saying it seems to happen a lot in online poker.

[Acesover8s]

Playing live 10-20 last night, all sorts of action exploded on a J96 flop. One guy has JJ, other guy has 99, other guy has AA. Turn is an Ace. River hurts someones feelings.

I said to the table: "This site is so rigged!"

No one laughed or responded, I have since concluded that they are all bots.

[William]

Nonsense, I have seen this both in life and online poker more times than I can remember.

That doesn't change the fact that online poker is rigged, of course... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

William [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[HUSKER'66]

Been there done that.I had QQ, another had JJ and a third had 99. The player with the 99 and myself both flopped sets and the jacks hit a set on the turn...lots of action. Fortunately the queens held up. I was afraid one of them had K/10.

Husker