Getting thrown out of a Vegas poker room

[jaydub]

Was playing at Bellagio and Wynn on a recent Fri / Sat Vegas trip. At both places there were incidents where I had a significantly larger than zero chance of getting tossed, nothing awful but enough to make me wonder how often / likely that is.

Here are the situations, all involve significant amounts of alcohol of course. At the Wynn, there was this nitty old tourist who I decided should be referred to as old man winter. He didn't like that nickname as was made clear. At one point he is asking me to step outside and fight him, which is highly, highly amusing on multiple levels. Dealer, an older woman who was absolutely atrocious calls the floor to talk to me. She says I'm not allowed to curse and mock other players, this of course is news to me. Floor comes over to talk, I am a guest at the Wynn, floor knows this. He pulls me aside, I explain what happens, he pretty much apologizes and says the dealer is due for a break soon but does request that I stop referring to the nit as old man. I go back to my seat and reluctantly do as agreed.

At the Bellagio, two friends are obviously checking down / soft playing. They raised me out of a pot, then check each other down. One has a monster, one has nothing. I do not like this, I am also far from sober so I make my feelings known with a few f-bombs thrown in. Dealer does not like this and makes it clear that if I continue speaking that way, I am gone. Floor is not called cause both players were terrible and I did not want a scene or delay.

Is either case really such that they'd kick a player out? I can't say I've ever noticed that happening but am not a regular B&M player. Regardless, when I do go to a B&M, such behavior is fairly mild and pretty standard. I would think a player would need multiple visits from the floor before getting tossed for language / abuse.

[ChicagoTroy]

Why not just control yourself?

[MRBAA]

Abusing other players is unacceptable -- including calling someone a silly nickname. Cursing I feel less strongly about when it's just "Oh [censored]" and not directed at someone.

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Regardless, when I do go to a B&M, such behavior is fairly mild and pretty standard.

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Pretty standard? had no idea. You need to stop drinking while you play.

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Abusing other players is unacceptable -- including calling someone a silly nickname. Cursing I feel less strongly about when it's just "Oh [censored]" and not directed at someone.

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I completely agree with the second part of this, but you really consider referring to someone as "old man winter" abuse? If so, you're as nitty as he is.

[MRBAA]

Saying it once or twice in jest is fine. Repeating it again and again when it's clear it's annoying the guy is abuse. Most of this is just common sense. Basically, your right to swing your arm ends where the other guy's nose begins.

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Saying it once or twice in jest is fine. Repeating it again and again when it's clear it's annoying the guy is abuse. Most of this is just common sense. Basically, your right to swing your arm ends where the other guy's nose begins.

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As far as I'm concerned your last sentence is completely correct and that's the only thing that's really abuse. But I understand the casinos want to keep as many people happy as possible and make it an enjoyable expereince for everyone. Still unless he's loud and yelling it across the table at the guy or something, then calling a silly nickname for someone "abuse" is just the epitomy of nittiness.

Again, I'm not defending the op. My guess is he was just generally being a drunken ass and this was an excuse.

[MRBAA]

Remember the Jim Rome/Jim Everett interview where he kept calling him "Chris Everett" and finally Jim Everett came after him? If we're playing poker, I guarantee I can get you riled with just non obscene words. Whether it's going ethnic, going appearence, going age,sexuality or whatever else you may be sensitive about. It's not hard to raise someone's blood pressure -- stopping when it's clear that banter has begun to get someone enraged is something I've done loads of times in casino games. I don't want to play at tables where everyone is nuts -- even if there may be some short term value in tilting opponents, the long term value to my enjoyment of the game and expectation is negative. Again, it's just common sense.

[phish]

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Abusing other players is unacceptable -- including calling someone a silly nickname. Cursing I feel less strongly about when it's just "Oh [censored]" and not directed at someone.

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I completely agree with the second part of this, but you really consider referring to someone as "old man winter" abuse? If so, you're as nitty as he is.

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Calling him 'old man winter' is okay, until the point when he makes it known that he doesn't like it. After that it is abuse, and he should be ejected.
If I ran a cardroom, I would have 0 tolerance for any type of impolite behavior. It's amazing how well people behave when they know it won't be tolerated. Just go to any European cardroom. Such a breath of fresh air from American ones.

[timprov]

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Just go to any European cardroom. Such a breath of fresh air from American ones.

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Except, of course, literally.

#3 is berating, but is anyone seriously contending that berating colluders is out of line?