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Old 10-13-2005, 05:42 PM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default Re: $100 NL 6max QQ versus LAG w/ 200+BB stacks

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The numbers you posted do not add up correctly.

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You're right, my converter has an error when it tries to convert all in action so I usually just go from memory as to the amounts. His push was for 200 and I called $157 or so.

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Your reraise was too big.

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How much would you make it here, like $16?

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I don't think he is going to fold after making it $66 to go preflop, and I would bet that he wins the hand more often than you do.

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So you're folding to his 3 bet then?
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:48 PM
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Reraising to $12 is my default. It is roughly pot-sized.

When a guy puts 66 bets in preflop for the first time, QQ does not look good. Obviously anything is possible, but how wide does his hand range need to be just for you to break even against it? Something like AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK... in order for you to actually show a profit against his range of hands, you need to add in 99, AQ, and worse... and you actually need him to get his entire stack in with those hands. I don't see that happening based upon your description.
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:51 PM
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Something like AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK... in order for you to actually show a profit against his range of hands, you need to add in 99, AQ, and worse... and you actually need him to get his entire stack in with those hands.

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This is an excellent point. I need to start thinking about things in these terms.
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Old 10-13-2005, 06:14 PM
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Villain had AA. I didn't improve. I really think I should've folded preflop to his 3bet, but you know, heat of the moment and all that. At least I set a new record for the biggest pot I've lost. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:49 PM
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wow, my read was really bad. guess you just chalk that one up as a good play by villain.
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: $100 NL 6max QQ versus LAG w/ 200+BB stacks

Villain may have LAG numbers pf, but have you seen him reraise like this pf ever?

I think that was the most important information in this hand.
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:59 PM
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Raise to $12-$16 PF, fold to the 3-bet. The equity from your situation if he is rarely 3-betting is that it allows you to take his $4 most of the time. Why give it all back? He has AA, KK, QQ or AK here every. Just fold. You're stacks are deep enough that this you are never going to get his chips with a lesser hand except maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe JJ and you will always lose your stack to a better hand.
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Old 10-13-2005, 08:21 PM
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guess you just chalk that one up as a good play by villain.

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Nah, more like bad play by me.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:14 PM
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Given your read on the villain if you are not going to push preflop then you have to call on this flop. He'll have AK, JJ and various other hands you beat well more than often enough to make this call profitable.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:55 PM
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call. once you called that preflop 3 bet, you pretty much can't fold here.

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