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Old 09-29-2005, 05:02 AM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

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3). If he can beat a 10 with an overpair less than KK that means he has exactly two holdings and they are JJ and QQ.

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If that is the case and he never bluff checkraises, why on earth would you not bet here and fold to a raise?

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DING DING DING!!!

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Old 09-29-2005, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

Hi Lawrence,

Yes, Sincity guy suggested this as the other possible play here. However, as I noted before, I don't see his hand unless I pay off a ch/raise.

Thanks for the input.

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Old 09-29-2005, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

Uh I think this is the "second" person Subfallen. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Perhaps an English expert can clarify.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

Hi El,

Of course, it's incorrect to be results oriented here. I mentioned earlier in the tread that if I am going to fold to a checkraise, I don't get the heuristic benefit of seeing scott's hand. Maybe that isn't really important to you, but gaining information like that from a player that I really RESPECT is worth alot to me.

I do understand your point that missing a bet on the river when he holds QQ can be a big mistake OVERTHE LONG RUN.

Your point is well taken.

Thanks for the input.

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Old 09-29-2005, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

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solid playing Black guy. HEY, the fact he is Black is irrelevant

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I think this is the "second" person Subfallen. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Perhaps an English expert can clarify.

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heuristic benefit

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For those few (where "few" = 0-2 people) wondering what my favorite three bits of this thread are...

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Old 09-29-2005, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

So if a similar situation came up where all the action was the same, and your reads were the same, would you bet or check the river?
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Another boring thread . . . way too long. The river bet is a gimme.

Easy river bet, not even close. Another example of a sub-optimal play (as Obi correctly points out), which is defended with all the "you dont know the local customs, players, facial ticks, etc" bulls**t. (Although this potentially (albeit marginally) useful information is inexplicably left absent from the original post).

If he has a 7, he check-raises turn. There is no flush, two pair is not a risk with the pair on board, only hand he can possibly have that you cant beat is 89s.

The check on the river is weak. Let's move along to some real posts. Where's Tommy?

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Old 09-29-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

(Teddy) .... Bet the river.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

it is 3ed person. do you want an explaination? his remake was pointless to any poker discussion, and i am not sure an english lesson adds anything.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Weak Tight you say Mikel?

1st person: I (e.g.: I am the greatest.)

2nd person: you (e.g.: You are the greatest)

3rd person: they (e.g.: Derek is the greatest)
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